Very funny, especially when we have Mig-29G at 13.0, and Su-27/Su-33 at 13.0, as well as the ICE Phantom.
Somehow, ARH missiles are not worth half a damn while IR missiles annihilate everything within and beyond its range. Maybe you should bearn about how to use radar-guided missiles, rather than endlessly arguing with honest war thunder players in the forum.
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I hope you haven’t forgotten that currently the Mig-29As in this game carry two types of missiles that don’t belong to them. The R-60M is for training only, especially when the standard version of Mig-29A came out almost the same time as R-73. R-27ER, on the other hand, did not come into service until the very end of the cold war. Only two sets of armament for Mig-29A should be accepted. Either equip with R-73 and R-27R/T and stay at 12.7, or equip with R-73 and R-27ER/ET and be moved to 13.0. Equipping Mig-29A with R-60M and R-27R/T is not an option, because that is the armament for early-batch Mig-29s, which is different from the Mig-29A we are familiar with(for example, the countermeasure dispenser is different). Anyway, we should never have any Soviet jet whose arsenal include R-27ER but still uses R-60M as its best IR missile. Either add R-73 to the arsenal, or remove R-27ER. Or, just do the both at the same time.
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Pretty sure everyone is talking about its maneuverability in RB mode, not with full real controls
Hundreds of American aircraft were left there after the war
@Renamed83048
Indeed you should stop arguing with honest War Thunder players in the forum.
Keep defending F-4F ICE, Mig-29G, and Su-27 at 13.0.
Mig-29s go to 13.0 minimum with R-73s irrelevant of the R-27 type. See F-16A Belgium.
Asking for a 12.7 R-73 slinger is demanding that F-14B be brought down to 12.3, F-16As brought down to 12.3, etc.
@Serkay64
Air RB and sim use the same exact flight models.
Only arcade has its own flight model.
what country are you from? the truth is f-4, f-105, b-52, f-5E were shot down by SAM-2. vietnam army has very few mig-15 and mig-21. vietnam is the only country that shot down b52
1c fighters are basically not that good in ARB duels.
Which is exactly my point.
Mig-29 and F-16C are both meta airframes for air RB.
It doesn’t matter that they’re not as good as Rafale and Typhoon cause air RB forces sustained turn rate AKA energy retention as well as high-speed to be the meta.
That and Mig-29 is 12.7.
Also the fact that F-15E has the worst energy retention above Mig-29SMT doesn’t matter because it’s so fast.
Despite F-15E’s airframe equal being Mig-29SMT.
I agree. No reason for it to be the same BR as an F-16 with only Aim-9Ls (especially with the 9Ls ahistorical flare resistance).
Personally, I’d rather have the 29A lose the R-27ERs and have it move down to 12.3, rather than it moving up and making the 29G irrelevant.
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That and Soviets can get a new Mig-29 for an R-73 peak loadout; which allows 9.13 to be unique in loadout.
The majority of aircraft shot down during the Vietnam war weren’t American. They only accounted for ~34%. I’m from the United States of America.
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Yes, but even adding the amount of aircraft left behind by the USA during the fall of Saigon/USA withdrawal and the total of American aircraft shot down, it’s still MUCH lower than the total amount of Russian/North Vietnamese aircraft shot down during the war. This is why I’m surprised that he only remarked on the “American” scrap, despite it being of the minority. Unless he was exclusively referring to abandoned aircraft.
Should i be surprised that aircraft got shot down during the war?
“Oh wow vietnam shooting down US aircraft during the war amazing!!”
Where is the speed and maneuver? I just see one flying brick
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Unless they give them 9M along with R-73 for mig
(Which i’m sure mig players really don’t want early F-16 to have 9M)
The difference between going full elevator in a sustained turn in normal RB controls and going full elevator in full real on dampening is quite noticable, atleast in AOA. Seems like the instructor is holding the MiG-29 back too much
Going full elevator once you have full reflexes honed is almost impossible to do accidentally in air RB.
Minor mouse movement and/or ASDW keys.
As for instructor, it will do a lot of AOA, up to 13Gs worth; your job in any aircraft that will do more Gs than your sustained is to reduce the G-limit to sustained with key pressed and/or minor mouse movement.
You’ll become better at managing energy in air RB with those tactics.
What are you even talking about? You completely missed what I said
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That information is completely false, in reality Vietnam only has a small number of Mig-17 and Mig-15 aircraft. Currently there are still many wrecks of B-52, F-4, F-105 aircraft lying in ponds, lakes, and rivers.
You can view by translating this document into English :
Danh sách tổn thất máy bay trong chiến tranh Việt Nam – Wikipedia tiếng Việt).