Your 157 replies make up 35.8% of this thread, they also are over 2x that of the person with the second most replies.
So far 1 person has expressed verbal approval of your opinion. Everyone else has not.
Just some things for you to consider when you talk about other people wasting time.
Replying to these during queue times, meanwhile CAS haters are losing this discussion, presumably full-time.
Just some thing for you to consider when you waste your one time ;)
Only time when the Stinger is guarantee to kill is when fired on a stalling plane above the battlefield. I guess that’s you.
You believe you are winning these discussions? Have you any metric that does not rely on your own personal opinion to determine this?
He cant bomb them while being 100% safe. That is why he calls them op.
Simple skill issue on your end.
XD he took the bait
And you believe baiting people is conductive of productive and good faith discussions, which is what this forum is for?
Brotha you have been complaining this entire time. You have no counter argument, you’re only on the forums to spread insults.
Missile guides itself so it’s missile’s issue.
I would understand if you were to complain about Type 81 missiles, but you somehow ended up complaining about really shitty ones lol.
I asked you a question because I am looking to understand your position. I would like you to answer the question please.
As for my counter argument you can find it here:
None of those are even counter arguments. Me 163 and Ki 200 have nothing to do with this discussion, ZSU-23-4M4 is also undertiered, and you didn’t even address the fact that Gepard 1A2 and Ozelot are being placed against planes with no ballistics computers, no guided weapons, no counter measures, and literally nothing to set em apart from WW2 CAS.
Clearly it’s the missiles fault for failing if I launch an Aim-9B at a guy 3 miles away whilst stalling.
Your original post says they face WW2 aircraft, the Me163 and Ki-200 are the only WW2 aircraft they face.
What sets them apart from WW2 CAS is higher speed and better high speed maneuverability. Which is a notable buff compared to WW2 aircraft.
If the ZSU-23-4M4 is undertiered as you allege then why is this the only time you mention it? Especially considering it sits at a lower BR and should be a more egregious offense by your logic.
You also still have dodged this question:
Being a little faster doesn’t mean they should be pinned against SAMs.
Its missiles and guns are weaker, and its not the topic of this discussion. I also don’t know what point you’re tryna make with this. Are you trying to say I’m biased towards Russia?
They can maneuver more effectively to dodge and at distance can outrun the SAM.
I made no such implications. I’m simply just curious as to why it is specifically Stingers that are the issue.
A P-40 can dodge a stinger, does that mean it should be put in the same battles as them?
The whole point of CAS is that its lower reward, but for far lower risk than a tank. At 8.7, it’s lower reward, but for higher risk than a tank.
Stingers are the most powerful, and most common to come across. Not only that, Ozelot and Gepard 1A2 are far better platforms than any other SAM carrier at their BR, as Ozelot is tiny and hard to spot, and Gepard 1A2 has very good guns.
Also, it’d be pretty goofy to complain about something like Santal, Matchbet, or PGZ04A when I never see em ingame.
A P-40 is not effectively balanced against a Stinger, which is why aircraft that are significantly more capable than the P-40 are.
The whole point of an uptier is to create a scenario in which your vehicle is at a disadvantage towards those of a higher BR, which in turn is why those vehicles have higher BRs.
If I were to hypothetically say that the German and British Eurofighters are OP but not the Italian one because I never see the Italian one that would be very nonsensical.
Same for something like F-86F-2. F-85 is not effectively balanced against a stinger.
And normally, uptiered tanks cost less to spawn and downtiered tanks cost more to spawn, but when it comes to SPAA and aircraft, uptier/downtier doesn’t effect SP cost.
It depends on if the Italian one is different.
Except your argument is that you never see them, not how they perform.
Matchbet, Santal, and the chinese thing are all, infact, different from Geppy 1A2 and the furry SAM launcher. There’s no reason to assume that since tank (A) is overpowered, that tank (B), which is entirely unique and I’ve never encountered it, is also overpowered.
Subjective based on your opinion.
That is because a 1k lbs bomb destroys a rank 1 SPAA and a rank 8 SPAA in the exact same manor.
It only does not have LWS, so is it hypothetically not OP because I do not see it?