Sure?
I’m pretty sure it’s almost an exact replica of it.
I said that the palmaria is better than the sp.70
Okay, but it was a join project between West Germany, Italy, and France. It’s the same system underneath a new coat of paint essentially, or I guess armor in this case, with multiple variants shown, Germany never fielded it because they had their KMW PzH 155 project as well as the Sp-70/PzH-155-1 project to make their choice they went with their system because of better technology and the “burst” firing mode. Just because Italy chose to produce and field it under the Oto-Malaria systems company, that doesn’t make it a different vehicle underneath the slight upgrades to it. I’d still like it to be added to the game, mostly because Italy is lacking and true artillery pieces. This was just the groundwork for the KMW PzH 155 as a prototype. Honestly, it still technically being a German prototype, but Italy liked it enough to produce it.
well if in your opinion it is german……ask it for the german tree. good luck
I already have. The fact that it’s not even coming in the update focused on artillery is kind of a joke, and just shows how much gaijin really doesn’t like Germany. Also, no, I said it was a Joint Project, not German, but was the prototyping for the KMW PzH 2000* (I used the wrong designation earlier*). I agree that it needs to be in all tree’s that helped develop it. But the German tree should get the PzH 2000 in the German tree
i remember that there is a specific topic to complain about german stuff in the game, because is always popping out in the recent post, please address your comments on the size of love for germany there since in this post they are redundant and OT. good luck. ciao 🤌
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Link?
Oh, and also, this isn’t just about Germany, it’s about all the nations in the game that don’t have a proper artillery in the game, Germany is just one of the few, Italy is another, I mean, even my main nation, a minor nation, has a Artillery, yet a major nation like Germany, Italy, and USA, if you would consider Italy a major, don’t have one. The one tree that had artillery is USSR, they got artillery way before any other nation, and even USA isn’t getting artillery until just now, as well as Israel, France just recently got one, and Japan has one. (My main nation is Sweden, that’s why I didn’t mention it), but I think this proves my point about that it’s not just Germany that’s getting no love, it’s other nations, and maybe it’s not they are getting no love, but USSR/Russia is getting most of it.
Should follow the M109 as an improved and domestic derp for Italy. +1
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Iirc it has 1000 HP engine (at least optional).
@Nicho
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A tragedy we got the M109 instead of this IMO. It’s needed ASAP at ~7.0. I don’t think we’d be seeing burst fire or RAP tho since other vehicles with those capabilities don’t have them modelled in-game.
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VIDAR received burst-fire capabilities as a “ready rack” of 3 shells (7.5s reload for “ready rack”, matches real life burst-fire capabilities of 3 rounds/15s)
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+1 for italy
And for Germany too (VCA TAM)
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suuuuuureeeeeee clearly ““identical””
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The two SPGs are just similar, not the same tank.
Oh, interesting. That’s a great way to implement that mechanic.
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Shouldn’t it be moved to the Italian suggestions list?
Anyway, I like this vehicle I would like to see it in play.
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I hope it moves on to suggestions soon, this artillery beauty should be part of the Italian tech tree, also, it’s TAM-chassis variant could be an interesting addition as a special vehicle.
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