oh specific permanent members hater coming, i’m not surprised to see them at a US main post
Well you cant learn new things without getting defeated and thats what US motto is.
Tbh if they put Raptor in equal or a position that has pretty huge advantage then those training wouldnt mean anything.
Because it wasn’t an awful take at all alot of people share it
Yeah, people put too much stock in beating the US during those exercises.
Thats partially USA fault.
They have set such a high bar that other countries inevitably feel the need to compare themselves with them.
and most nations dont invest anywhere near as much into their military as the US does (as other nations invest in things like Health Care and Education…) So if other nations can keep up, with their own vehicles, on a fraction of the budget. Then its probably good enough in a conflict/domestic security. Especially with things like NATO meaning not everyone has to invest insane levels of funds into their military to go toe-to-toe with other big military powers like the US, China or “Russia”
The US spends so much on defense specifically because Europe isn’t keeping up. The US has more aircraft than most European nations combined. The US has more Raptors than any one nation has Typhoons. The US had more F35s than Europe has Typhoons. Let’s not pretend like Europe takes its own defense very seriously.
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I wonder one the biggest economy has the biggest army
i wonder hmmm
Those are good points, the thing is Europe does not actively try to keep with USA at least in terms of numbers, although thanks to NATO they dont have to.
Yep, though Europe, who cant fielded as many forces, does tend to opt for quality over quantity. It’s why a lot European infantry get a lot more training than the US for example. Also the winners of most NATO tank competitions is often the Challenger 2
Thats actually debateble considering Leopard2, Abrams series won many competetions as well.
Tbh i dont think Challenger is on the same level that Leopard2A7+,M1A2 SEPV3 sits because of obvious design choices. New Challenger might change that tho.
Exactly.
Well replacing limited amount of infantry will take a lot of time, Germans learned that in hard way so better training is essential in that case.
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Goes for most these missiles underperforming, with only the amraam being vaguely close to reality. MICA’s a joke compared to real performance.
I think he wanted to say that The 120B is being handed out like candy to other countries and the US doesn’t have it yet. Both 15c and 16c only have the ‘A’
no he did think that the japanese AAM-4 was initially american because he tought it was made on the base of the AIM-120
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In game the A and B are probably going to be like the 7F and 7M in the fact that they are complete copy pastes, but Gaijin could have easily sidestepped this bullshit if they just gave every 120 carrier the B.
The US also spends a crap ton on European/NATO defense.
It’s fine to say XYZ about the US spending a lot, because we do. However a significant portion of our budget goes to helping other nations fund their militaries since they seem to be incapable of or unwilling to do it on their own (Like Canada failing to hit it’s 2% GDP rate and the US stepping in to help). Whenever the US tries to withdrawal, there are often many complaints and complications in nearby towns or the towns these bases are located in since they lose a source of income and stability.
Yes, the United States may seem “weaker” in relation to other countries in Europe at times. However that weakness often stems from having to find your base programs, so you can afford to spend money on experimental programs. In all, while yeah, the US suffers from XYZ, ultimately XYZ is caused by funding non-US forces. For example, we may be able to afford 100 more raptors had we not had to spend it on Euro defense (this is an example and not exact numbers. Do not quote this as factual numbers: they are merely here for point making). Or perhaps we could open up an experimental missile program. Or upgrade past the Aim-9 series. Etc. etc. etc.
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this turned into who can spend more budget on their military very quickly
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To be fair it’s the reason as to why other people have better missiles than the US so it isn’t wholly irrelevant to the conversation
i mean other countries develop electronics much quicker than the US because they spend a lot in more sectors than in one specific area
Does the f22 even have gimbal range/good angles on it’s radar to do bvr duels? Not sure how true this is but i’ve recall seeing some information stating the radar is in a fixed possition