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Do you really not understand that this data is for obsolete shells?

I literally showed you that the same value is given for PG-7V, PG-7VR and Kornet.

For HKChPWSH for PG-7V and 3BM15, 90% is also stated, but not for others.

Or do you think that the “old Duplet” suddenly breaks the laws of physics and starts to provide the same protection from new ammunition as from old ones?

“Образцовый” mean unknown gunpowder loading. You should pay attention to details

Because devs state that ХСЧКВ-34 = Nizh = Duplet-2M… this way

But this is literally being said by employees of another company…

I mean, are they different elements indeed? We have seen Thai manual using ХСЧКВ elements, and brochure calls it different name, however why the original developer hasn’t made a brochure themselves?

Furthermore, looking up Internet sources, there is no clear distinction between Nizh from 2007 and 2018 models, even if they are to be produced by different plants

This brochure has no relation to the elements of the ХСЧКВ 34

The matches you found mean nothing.

If desired, similar coincidences can be found with other ERA elements.

Relict=HKChPWSH?🤔

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Perhaps they did not need it then in this form, a lot of time has passed in comparison between Duplet and Duplet 2M, there may be a restriction on publication as in the case of the act from the tests of 2003. That’s the point, we can’t say whether they are the same or not. And the coincidence of some characteristics can’t prove it in any way, so it is incorrect to use the Duplet 2M brochure for adjustment.

How can you prove that this 70% lighter element has the same capabilities when it comes to newer more powerful projectiles? It could be that when presented with newer munitions with measures against DZ, such as BM42, the heavier ERA performs better.

Directly from the website of the manufacturer of Duplet 2M

And for the old ones it’s the same, right?)

Well, but are “predecessors” in question older Nizh ERA, say, not K-1? Gotta check out weights of both

Coincidences can be found anywhere as stated by Dzhahed

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since it specifically states this reduction in weight for “Duplet 2M” module, and since Duplet has never used K-1 or any other non cumulative ERA, it is I think, a valid conclusion to say that the reduction is in comparison to older Duplet elements.

Well, from rather quick search, K-1 tile is ~5.3kg, whereas Nizh-1M tile filled with ХСЧКВ-34 weights ~2.8kg and with ХСЧКВ-19 weights 2.1kg. (19A is even lighter with ~1.5kg).

Ain’t no mathematician, but numbers kind of match.

Otherwise, do you think the UAM tiles would weight <1kg and provide even the same resistance as, say, other early Nizh-1M weighting about 2.8kgs?

You are now trying to justify by any means the use of the brochure from HKChPWSH for the elements of ХСЧКВ 34

This is what the elements of the ХСЧКВ 34 look like

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What do the HKChPWSH elements look like, please show me

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Hold on, lemme check the thing

This is why I say that this is most likely just an untested concept and should not be used to derive values for normal Duplet

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I provided a link earlier but you can just Google Duplet 2M

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Man, reading though all this makes me think of the M1 NERA arrays. All over again.

If you don’t have evidence that absolutely states exact numbers, you get nothing at all at best; and arbitrary decisions at worst.

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That’s exactly what I was trying to say. Tuning the Duplet using the Duplet 2M brochure is the same as tuning the Soviet K-5 using the Ukrainian K-5 brochure.

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