With its old FM and countermeasures it was almost immune to most missiles and was undogfighteable by anything else. It belongs at a higher BR than those.
With the reduction in burn time on the flares and the fact you actually need to run chaff now, that wouldnt happen. You dont exactly see F-15s running 240 regular flares and dropping them at regular intervals to make themselves immune to IR missiles do you
Fake nerfs for the sake of “balance” should never be done. Totally fake, ahisotircal nerfs ruin the game. BOL especially because they applied that change to EVERYTHING that has BOL. Tornado, Viggen, SHar, etc all got screwed by the fact they basically dont have flares or chaff that work. Tornado F3 Late and SHar FA2 and VIggen Di probably all should be more like 12.7 due to the lack of CMs.
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Benelux will only give France copy paste options. Because that is what Gaijin added it for. Specifically so they didn’t have to do work on unique native options for France.
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Funny how F15s are allowed to keep a FM that is overperforming compared to a few documents I’ve read, but the moment Sweden players suggest Gripen be brought up to parity with the most credible sources (in any way) we’re shouted down because “It’d be too good”. *
So much for “Make better things” then.
* Gripen is even under performing compared to the least charitable papers.
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Its just inconcievable to US mains that nations besides the US made good aircraft.
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You see, F-15C and F-16C are pretty accurate to their respective EM and turn rate diagrams. Regarding F-15A and F-16A, they are 100% overperforming and sometimes by quite a bit. The F-16A flight model is just completely nuts; the F-16s in general should not be able to pull over 26 degrees of AOA because it is limited by the FCS. This applies also to the F-16C, but the F-16A with sim controls can easily maneuver safely up to near 40 degrees of AOA with sim controls which it absolutely cannot do in real life. The entire reason why the F-16 has an AOA limiter is because the aerodynamic configuration would mean that past the limit, the F-16 wouldn’t even be able to sustain controlled flight and enter a stall.
So you get funny things such as the F-16s winning a low-speed one-circle fight with the Su-27 Flanker ingame. If the flight models are accurate, the F-15 and the Su-27 would clap the F-16 in that area, but the opposite is true currently.
…Which isn’t modeled because it is simply not compatible with a game where pulling 12Gs is the norm.
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How has Japan gone top
Because Japan suffers the most.
Which i 100% agree with.
Israel faces practically every issue that Japan does but worse
That’s one for the superman that sits in the cockpit, or is it just a drunken Russian pilot.
F16 though… Why should other planes be limited with FM whilst F-16 isn’t, it isn’t to do with pulling 12Gs, its more about the FM, otherwise why is it even a thing in WT?
Japan has a larger playerbase i guess…
But, Israël is second. So it suffers just as much.
With only a 1% difference.
Add Germany to the poll then
You can read the title right?
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Germany = minor nation lol.
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You never define ‘minor nation’ technically.
You kinda contradict yourself.
This implies Israel suffers more that despite smaller player base only 1% diff
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A minor nations is a community awknoledged term, specifiying the nations above.
I should have been more clear; regarding the fact that some might see, that it doesn’t. Regarding to Israël, the 1% is neglectable. But with taking the 1% in account, Japan suffers the most.
Respectively, yes
I’m just making a meaningless argument anyways. I guess it makes some activity to help with the poll tho
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No argument is meaningless.
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