Afaik the Leclerc has its historical reload, but the Type-10 can get down to about 3 seconds, and reload changes could push the tank to a BR to where it is no longer that good. Iirc the Strv 103s can have a sub 3 second reload, but I don’t want that, since I don’t want an 8.3/8.7 strv-103.
There’s also the issue of some first stage ready racks taking forever to reload, such as the challengers. The French autoloaded Mediums have a similar issue, it takes so long for one to be reloaded.
I’ve seen people suggest Chally should have a bigger first stage (no idea if accurate or not), but even if they don’t opt for that, they should definitely buff the replenishment time. It’s ridiculously long right now.
I have often felt like the smaller nations have to unduly suffer for unreasonable lengths of time, to make a big enough dent in the stats for the snail to give them some tlc. (Be that in the form of buffs or BR change).
As someone with severe skill issues, I am doing my part to lower the stats of such vehicles, but seems like the average person using them is doing too good lol.
Yeah, just find some prototypes could make the line much bigger just like how Sub-TT does now, and we could already see LCT and TKXs in the game. In fact, i even thought the chance of adding paper vehicles into game, cause these small nations might can’t make real functional prototypes (lack of technology or just economical reason) while USA or USSR have so many testing vehicles that never be chosen.
Some nation may needs a Father TT(?) or combined TT if their vehicle is still too less for a single TT or like Israel, lack of WW2 vehicles, but yes, every nation could have a full TT by only domestic vehicles.
Balance. I heard someone offical said reloading time is a way to balance, though i never seen the source.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/ojFgCJ6Jnos4
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/nzUoCC2yxJx5
Should be about 20 rounds (min 16 max about 26). The best guess. We got a tiny ready rack when we had the fastest reload as a balancing thing, but they never undid it when everyone else got a 5 second reload.
CR1s are actually the same
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/m22cZZxaNPXJ
Yeah… Smallest ready rack in game (I think) and also a really long reload.
And even worse many of those who choose smaller nations are skillful players, so they could make the stat much higher than average player does
See: Char25T, the EBRs, and many aircraft.
This is one of those rare instances where the snail opted not to do ‘copy paste’, when they really should have.
There really is quite a lot of stuff that could go in Israeli rank I-III, and a lot of it would just require a simple reskin, or partial use of existing models (I.e new turret on old hull)
No doubt some would complain about a lot of UK/US/FR/RU things being there, but as far I’m concerned, if you want to play Israel, you’ve got to grind the early ranks of one of those countries anyway, so what difference does it really make lol.
I’d much prefer that as opposed to this current setup, where people have to jump right in at 6.0 with no crew skills.
IMO a big issue is player quality causing overtiered vehicles. Not many new players are drawn to minor nations, so they’re often stuck with stuff like the Re 2005 a full BR above where it belongs.
The balance of top-level ground combat has always been very poor, and now it has reached an unbearable level. We spent the same amount of money grinding TT but only got an extremely bad experience.
There are two options now.
1.BUFF China, Italy, Israel, UK, France top MBT.
2. delete all other factions. Only the Soviet and Sweden remain in this game.
For the first option, I propose the following.
China:
fiexd the turret armor of ZTZ99A. hull KE increased to 800 (acknowledged suggestion)
fiexd the armor thickness of Khalid/MBT2000/VT4 hull (acknowledged suggestion)
Increase the loading speed of VT4/99A to 6.66s.
Increase the penetration power of DTC-10 to 635mm（gaijin refused to accept on the grounds of confidentiality）
Britain：
Challenger 2 and Challenger 3 loading speed reduced to 5 s.
France：
Supplement Leclerc’s upper hull armor ≈ 400+KE
The loading speed reduced to 4s.
Israel：
Mekava 4M hull KE increased to 600
Italy：
Improve the defense of the Ariete WAR kit.
Additional:
Partial vehicles lowered their matching level from 12.0 to 11.7 or 11.3
Here are some other noted issues:
Challenger 2 add-on armor packages also provide not enough armor. The composite armor/era kit for 2F and TES barely provides any protection.
Leclerc is missing spall liner.
Ariete should just go down in BR. Ariete also has composite armor and not spaced armor in hull.
The Abrams should’ve never gotten 5 second reload imo. I hate how Gaijin uses reload speed as a way to balance tanks, especially when tanks with autoloaders exist and are always implemented with fixed reload time.
Before, tanks like Leclerc had an advantage with 5 second reload. Now, Abrams has same 5 second reload. Who will now play Leclerc over Abrams now? The Abrams is better than the Leclerc in pretty much every way. The only reason you will play Leclerc is because you like the tank itself, and not the performance ingame.
The Challenger 2 suffers even more. One of the only advantages of the Challenger 2 was the 5 second reload. The Challengers are heavy and slow, yet they do not have the armor to back it up and have massive weakspots. They also fire the worst shell at top tier. And yet Gaijin still refuses to fix their armor profile and improve the effectiveness of add-on armor.
I find it odd that they do not add the jewish brigade as israel’s rank 1 and rank 2.
For the jewish brigade was the predecessor to the paramilitaries of the Yishuv that in turn were the
predecessors of the IDF.
true true
It would be awesome if developers fix volumetric shells, armor and maybe overpressure. These mechanics creates a lot of issues mostly for ground battles. I love when 70 SP vehicle destroys tanks better than actual tanks (Falcon, AMX 30 DCA, any Oerlikon KDA carrier)
NO
Really funny thing is I’d wager you lot and the Italians getting Gripen are partly to blame for the abysmal state of it. Too many minor nations with the same decent kit, obviously they had to kill it.
In the case of France, the new sub tree is pretty good example of the fact that they use them to copy paste instead of adding in native options. France has an obscene number missing native options, and instead of implementing any of them they give us leopards. Plenty of light tanks they could add, we get copy pastes and such. A few jets they could have added, got a tech tree that really shouldn’t be with the French, because copy paste.
They just need to stop with sub trees and focus on native options. They could even outsource the research to the community for upcoming native additions, and I would wager would have significantly more accurate outcomes alongside significantly fewer people getting pissed that they modeled shit wrong.
I am pretty upset at the tree they added to France. Could have given us any number of light options, and instead we get leopards. Could have unfucked the myriad issues with Leclerc, and instead we got leopards. Sub trees are just an excuse not to give native options and not to fix what needs fixing. French tree could have been receiving updates of native options (outside of air) for a few years, but instead we get this crap.
That aside;
There is some evidence that Leclerc could reload notably faster in a combat setting. I don’t have the claimed figures to hand though. Strv 103s could get a reload of 2.7s, from memory. I am of the mind they could improve it to this rate on account of the abysmal hull aim, and the fact that it was one of the more notable things of Strv 103. Especially for the strv 103 that’s at 8.7. Doesn’t help 103s are missing redundant systems. However, I am also biased and the 103 is my favourite tank.
Not because of the C&P.
The BeNeLux TT is around 70% totally unique.
The only things we have seen for BeNeLux are within the 30% of C&P.
BeNeLux is the only possible standalone TT with a BIG navy - unlike the 2 lines for other proposed TT’s.
Also, BeNeLux has stealth fighters, a very big submarine navy, a big arsenal of attackdrones, unmanned vehicles and a reasonable big sized helicopter TT.
BeNeLux SHOULD have been an independend TT. NO other proposed standalone TT has the equivalant amount of vehicles as BeNeLux. You only reach that size when combining the entire European East-Block together, and even then, you have a very small navy - with no subs - no attack drones, no unmanned vehicles and no stealth fighters.
So not really future proof.
The Gripen is finally balanced, what’s wrong with it?
Probably more that Im forgetting. You also have the SAAF one with R-Darters that are notably weaker than the AMRAAM.
Oh sorry didn’t realize you wanted a 15.0 plane instead
If its a 15.0 plane, then F-15C MSIP II and F-15E should already be at 16.0