Opinions of the state of minor nations in War Thunder Part 2

You see, F-15C and F-16C are pretty accurate to their respective EM and turn rate diagrams. Regarding F-15A and F-16A, they are 100% overperforming and sometimes by quite a bit. The F-16A flight model is just completely nuts; the F-16s in general should not be able to pull over 26 degrees of AOA because it is limited by the FCS. This applies also to the F-16C, but the F-16A with sim controls can easily maneuver safely up to near 40 degrees of AOA with sim controls which it absolutely cannot do in real life. The entire reason why the F-16 has an AOA limiter is because the aerodynamic configuration would mean that past the limit, the F-16 wouldn’t even be able to sustain controlled flight and enter a stall.

So you get funny things such as the F-16s winning a low-speed one-circle fight with the Su-27 Flanker ingame. If the flight models are accurate, the F-15 and the Su-27 would clap the F-16 in that area, but the opposite is true currently.

…Which isn’t modeled because it is simply not compatible with a game where pulling 12Gs is the norm.

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How has Japan gone top

Because Japan suffers the most.
Which i 100% agree with.

Israel faces practically every issue that Japan does but worse

That’s one for the superman that sits in the cockpit, or is it just a drunken Russian pilot.
F16 though… Why should other planes be limited with FM whilst F-16 isn’t, it isn’t to do with pulling 12Gs, its more about the FM, otherwise why is it even a thing in WT?

Japan has a larger playerbase i guess…
But, Israël is second. So it suffers just as much.
With only a 1% difference.

Add Germany to the poll then

You can read the title right?

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Germany = minor nation lol.

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You never define ‘minor nation’ technically.

You kinda contradict yourself.

This implies Israel suffers more that despite smaller player base only 1% diff

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A minor nations is a community awknoledged term, specifiying the nations above.

I should have been more clear; regarding the fact that some might see, that it doesn’t. Regarding to Israël, the 1% is neglectable. But with taking the 1% in account, Japan suffers the most.

Respectively, yes

I’m just making a meaningless argument anyways. I guess it makes some activity to help with the poll tho

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No argument is meaningless.

Sharing this poll to anyone is very helpfull! Make sure to do it!

Should also consider language difference and platform difference, as not all of player would use official forum.
An example is, in a poll on the biggest Chinese speaking forum, most of players think China, al teast in top tier, have suffered a lot, especially they think Gaijin make the vehecle of China incorrectly because they believe Gaijin think China can’t be better than Russia
Also, if we look Germany top tier planes, they have no 13.7, lack of CAS, so would they be a small nation?

The majority is, from RU to Chinese servers. This forum is a meltingpot from all platforms.

Germany is still one of the best nations allround and they do have CAS at the top br, with the tornado, all be it at a slightly lower br.
Upcoming December they will be getting a Swiss F-18 (by the looks of it).

I’m going to be honest. Sweden might be a “minor nation,” but they might as well be a major one in many aspects.

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Howcome?
Just because they have a good top tier list?
They still lack 300 vehicles behind the main three, have limited lineups and almost NO additions per update, with this year only bringing in 3 vehicles in the TT in total.
1 tank and 2 planes.

So together with Japan, Israël and Italy, receiving the least amount of vehicles per year.

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Fair points.
My comment was more so directed at top-tier Sweden, which is pretty powerful all things considered. I am aware that Sweden is missing good lineups at lower tiers and don’t get that many vehicles.