Opinion on Leviathans

So you just let CAS fly about and let the rats (2S, HSTL, FOX, VBCI, etc.) flank and control?
Winning actions are winning actions - even if you keep a enemy player busy long enough for someone else to secure the kill or even if you just scout and intel share.

A developed battlefield is truely developed.

Most CAS run long range outside of ADATS range. Only other option is to go air with a AA loadout and contend with SPAA and enemy air. You seem to have missed the part about “A slightly aware pilot”.

Since when?

Still waiting for them to make the CR2s even worthy of 11.3. Still got 2-3 year old bug reports sat untouched. Its the slowest tank at top tier, with the second weakest armour, weakest shell and weakest sustained fire rate.

The CR2, 2F, TES, OES and CR3TD should be 11.3 and the BN should be 11.7 whilst its one of the very few with APS, once APS becomes standard, it should be 11.3 and the 2E is just maybe, barely good enough to be 11.7 due to better mobility.

But I know a vast majority of Brit mains, considers the British ground tree ends at the Challenger Mk3 at 10.7, because we do not have a competitive top tier line up.

The addition of the useless Badger and no usable SPAA has just made things worse

I know the Merkava, Ariete, Chinese tanks, etc are also not doing too great either at the moment. Basically if you dont have an Abrams, Leopard 2 or T-series tank, you arent competitive at top tier

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It wasnt hard to shoot planes down until the update that made the spawn further away

I rarely find the IRST locks past about 5-6km, its heavily weather dependent. Even the radar seems… touchy at the moment, last time I played it, the radar wouldnt lock onto a strike drone until about 5km, was aiming them manually

Counter-Heli is the only thing the ADATS can actually do. Vs 11.7/12.0 fixed wing, you might as well not waste a missile vs 13.0 CAS, you might as well not bother even spawning in

Agree on the 10.7 part. 2E is a godlike sniper if the map allows. Top Tier the most comfortable tanks, as long as you are not in a city, would be the Black Knight, 2F and 3TD. With the map changes and map rotation changes I basically parked top tier UK except for air.

This - the ADATS does have its oportunity moments but definately not a competitive SPAA. It is a better TD than SPAA.

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At the moment, if im in the mood for CR2, I just play 11.7 and pray for a downtier. If it works. Its fine and fighting 10.7s, it actually feels balanced. If its an uptier, then GG, but oh well. Either that or wait for the GSB rotation where the base CR2 is fighting mostly 10.3/10.7s.

Yeah, I have no idea why its 11.7. 11.0 would probably be better for it.

Good thing is that you cant face SU30/34, eurofighters and rafales if you’re playing 11.7

speaking of falklands, is it air spawn only? i have only gotten it with air spawns or am i just really unlucky?

for those who play the land Italy it’s a slap in the face for those who play the Italian naval 1min reload for the 381 mm too long the mig-29 sniper is the only decent one but with the weakened radar it’s not worth it Great job Gaijin 👏👏👏

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A patch that represents gaijin’s current standard of quality for their game.

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If only my MBT had a cannon to deal with light tanks easier than they can deal with me…
HSTVL being the only thing faster than MBTs.

Or do you think the scouting exploit is a valid tactic rather than the rule violating exploit that it is?

Prove it is an exploit that breaks the rules. Further, prove anybody doing it is knowingly exploiting a bug (which is the actual rule break, not just having a bug occur)

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/nb2LThJBzpyZ

Inb4 you defend cheating in War Thunder further.

Not proof because of the vague nature of bug reports, regardless, even if we assume this is valid proof, prove anybody using this is doing so knowing it is a bug rather than an intended gameplay mechanic, which again, is the actual rule break.

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Apparently depending on weather conditions you might spawn on the ground, but the airspawn would still be open so really you’re just at a disadvantage for free.

I never refered to exploits. Scouting as base function that is in game. Though well done on just making it even more visable.

But then again - thanks for keeping it on topic by posting a 3 month old game breaking bug.

Worst update in the history of warthunder.

If you don’t touch air it’s still a stinky update, but not as atrocious.

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As I sated, mine was the objective view and not my subjective one.

If I had gone the subjective route I would have passed the non existent character limit twice over just on the new bugs introduced alone, let alone the other stuff.

I feel no need to repeat that here as I have stated my opinion for the preffered direction, of at least 2 out of the 4 major updates a year, on multiple occasions already and whenever it fit the topic.

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How’s it an exploit if you use the 3 features (drones, squad markers, and scouting) for their intended purposes

  1. Locate (drone)
  2. Mark for you/squad mates (squad marker)
  3. Scout for whole team and reward (scouting)

Also couldnt you use the drones own markers for this?

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