Operation R.E.L.I.C. [Bringing back unobtainable vehicles and cosmetics]

I’m glad you like my idea, and honoured that you included it!

On a small sidenote, the Ha-Go and tier 1 French tanks that you put in the example tree are not event vehicles. They were never actually removed and are still obtainable via research, though now you have to unlock tier 2 to be able to research them.

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Oh damm you are right! xD

I completely forgot that was a thing. But oh well, I’ll keep them in for now I think. The illustration is just a visual aid at the end of the day, not a final product.

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Interesting proposal though I believe it has some issues

  • First are vehicles that were removed because they were fictional. This includes the Panther II, Tiger 105, and R2Y2. These vehicles don’t hold up to War Thunder’s standards for what an acceptable vehicle is and should not return.
  • Second, the Maus. This is already available during the yearly birthday event. I think this proposal would be best suited as a replacement for said event, but if not the Maus should not be available so the birthday event is still special. Also, the E100 should be under the Maus to protect its rarity and because the vehicles it’s currently under are removed
  • Third, vehicles relocated to a new tree. Things like the American Merkavas or Russian Type 69 or the various German Italian aircraft, that were included in one tree before their current tree was in the game. These should require having the proper tech tree version (or closest equivalent e.g. Merkava Mk 3C for the Mk 3D) before they can be acquired for the interim tree
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Oh wow I put a suggestion similar to his as well, but yours is a lot more elaborate, might did not even get accepted but rejected without explanation.
Seeing how elaborate your suggestion is im very glad about it.

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I think you are putting to much focus on the specifics. I simply took a neutral stance and included pretty much all nonobtainable things. Opinions regarding paper and fake designs differ a lot between people. And at the end of the day it’s up to Gaijin to decide what to do with those vehicles.

As for the Maus, and perhaps some other vehicles that return once a year in other special days. I think it might be good to put them all in this event instead now. You create a much more unified event where they all show up again. But again it’s up to Gaijin to decide this.

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Oh that’s unfortunate to hear yours didn’t get through. But I’m glad you like mine! :D

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I think this would be really fun! I’m not a huge fan of the paywall idea though. Kinda wish you hadn’t given them that idea… Regardless, I support this! +1

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That’s the problem with trying to be neutral when making the suggestion. I had to include some other ideas that most people won’t like :P

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Yes but the snail doesn’t need more ways to take our money =.=

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I generally like the idea but not the biggest fan of 2 things.

  1. Locking event vehicles behind regularly purchasable premiums. It just seems a bit unfair since the original event vehicles were free to obtain.

  2. Adding just regularly purchasable tech tree premiums to be obtainable via stars. This is not as bad it just seems odd to be able to get them this way.

I’m not the biggest fan of your first point as well, but we might have to take it as it is literally the only incentive Gaijin has to add this.

For your second point, they’re not?

The SAV 20 and M4A1 FL10 are both purchasable via GE at a quick glance. Maybe the sav is only occasionally on sale but I know I bought it with GE and the FL10 is a regular GE premium.

Oh yeah, you’re right, not sure why those are there. I’m unsure if he intended to

They should not be there in any case.

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Very well written suggestion, I feel like this could be something that can be taken just about 1:1 into the game, maybe with adjusted costs here and there by whatever Gaijin would want.

Only major thing I feel like would be done is a few things to give more importance to the original events. For example to discourage people from skipping events because it will be easier later, it would probably be reasonable to expect them making the star cost no less than their original event. For example the J6K (Rank IV) was 11 stars in the original event.

That said these costs do seem a bit excessive compared to other rewards nowadays, so maybe letting them get cheaper over time until they settle into a rank-appropriate price would make sense. For example they could start at 12 stars, then lose 2 per year until they settle at their final cost. This would make newer event vehicles more expensive for a while, but still available and allow them to reach a normal price over time.


In case anyone at Gaijin sees this, such an event can make a ton of money.

Maybe it’s not selling one IS-7 for 2000k € on the market, but if someone decides to be patient enough to wait three years and buy the stars for 999GE each, they would still need to spend a total of ~120€. Now assuming there’s 17 people doing this, that’s already more than one car-priced IS-7 sale now, and that’s just with example costs from normal event stars.
It also doesn’t include less patient people that would still likely be willing to spend hundreds on the existing market stocks to skip the necessary years.

This whole concept is insanely profitable, without being predatory.

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I’m actually a fan of this idea. Maybe not the literal paywall, as much as it’s still better than not getting event rewards at all it still doesn’t sit right with me, but the techtree vehicle connection makes for an interesting scavenger hunt type thing.

For example it might be interesting to collect the N1K family of aircraft before you can get the J6K in the event, or to get the Fiat 6614 before getting the FIROS 6. It’s not excessively hard, and in many cases players will already have what they need or get it easily, but it rewards playing through the game in an interesting way.
Maybe even have some connections between trees, like getting the German techtree Tiger E as a requirement for the Heavy Tank No.6 so players are encouraged to branch out some more.

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These two points are also my biggest concern about the suggested vehicles.

Vehicles that are regularly on sale either for warbond, GE or in the gaijin store, should not be part of this event. There would be not incentive for gaijin to do it.
The same with the Maus, that is regularly obtainable, without having to spend money.

The other one, is that if this have to be an event, it doesn’t make sense to exclude players to get specific vehicles behind premium purchases, especially if the vehicles that require that purchase before hand, is not the greatest vehicle already.

As a side not of not so importance, but why does the A7V cost 5 stars, while the M8 LAC only costs 3 stars. I know it is to some extent arbitrary prices of the vehicles, but still.

Neither am I, but Gaijin is motivated by how much they can earn of something. And this would be a great way for them to make profit of it. But don’t forget the non-premium side of this idea, having event vehicles linked with techtree vehicles is a great way to make the grind a bit bigger while keeping the event for free.

The illustration should not be taken as a fact. I simply went to the wiki and took every vehicle not reguraly obtainable and added it in. Specifics about which vehicle goes where don’t matter. I’m suggesting the event idea, and the illustration serves as an easy way for people to see what I’m suggesting.

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That is a good point. But remember that original events offer tradeble coupons, and this event does not. Some vehicles will be cheaper to get in this event, but you don’t get it as a coupon so it has no value from a marketplace point of view.

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