didnt they tried Western doctrine type armor(on the 640) so its double thicker armor at a slightly less slope
Well how about black eagle and object 195 at the same time !!! I guess gajiin vagon zavods production capacity might not be able to handle such complex machinery, the assembly line is not built for such things. Its a bit too Americanized and the construction tools are a bite too sensitive for rugged vehicles.
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The hull is of t-80 U origin but the turret is new in design. As for armor composition and thickness we can only speculate.
Wasn’t that actually on the object 187-5 and -6?
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not sure
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If somebody interested:
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Interesting info about automatic loader, I read parts of it, how long will it take to bring the round into the gun chamber? Is this loader more reliable than the auto loaders in other T-series tanks?
Well the object has been pushed back a bite to winter operation. We are now stuck with T-72b3a no reverse speed. I wonder why is it so hard to re-work the transmission of the t-72 tank and increase its reverse speed?
Just use the T-80s.
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The T-72 variants have slightly more gun depression, they are mostly -5.7 so they can use some spots to hull down where the T-80s with -5 couldn’t, their turret armor are pretty decent especially the T-90 series, where they only can be penned by top ammunition like DM53/M829A2, except if you get hit in the breech.
This guy would have killed me if he had -5.7 instead of -5.0, he was taking way too long to lower his gun enough to hit me, only around .5 second late because I was still reloading.
Not likely, the T-80 was cresting the hill a lot faster than a T-72 would. The extra 0.7° depression doesn’t come into it when its further back and still cresting the hill.
He was dead either way.
Given the speed of T-80s yeah, I was aware that he was giving me way too much time to reload so I was thinking he probably couldn’t lower his gun enough.
Unfortunately, I didn’t find answers to these questions there.
That’s the kicker when it comes to using hull down positions. The big mantlet weakspots on soviet tanks means avoiding the hits with a stronger transmission is more important than the extra 0.7°.
As I was reading I was not able to find that info either, but I am assuming 5 to 7, if it is a single piece round which I do believe the grifel rounds are, then it should load faster.
Grifel is a 2-piece cartridge.
Ahh ok, the propellent is then separate. I thought they would make them single piece in the future to limit detonation and fire?
Limiting detonations and flagration isn’t going to do anything if the same amount of propellant is contained in the cartridge. The only thing you can do is separate the explosives from the crew, which was the entire aim of the '90s.
