Not really. BVM I can see it however the T-90M? No. Unless you’re playing a Challenger (cough cough), you will always beat it into position for one, among its many other weaknesses.
Agreeable.
For all intents and purposes it is a worse T-80B. Worse armor, worse survivability, far worse reload, with the 292’s only advantage being the shell. While it is a good shell, It is 100% not worth the 10s reload. I’d say its fine as is, just that compression around the 292’s BR range could be solved.
Just purely on the grounds they have a sligtly longer reload with slightly weaker shells and cant hulldown like everyone else can usually means they arent too hard to deal with. Though the Micro maps usually favour them heavily.
If we had some decently sized maps, they’d loose a lot of their current power and they are rather heavily carried by the obscenely OP CAS the soviets have at the moment.
So with proper proper decompression, they’d be fairly high, but just below the 2A7s
I just find that L23 and even L23A1 just dont pen it and I’ve even nailed them a few times with things like MILANs and TOWs and done very little damage despite the fact they have no ERA.
IMO, something isn’t right with their damage models for something that is suppose to be a “glass canon”
The whole glass cannon thing is pretty false ngl. Against rounds from 11.0 and above sure, but it is just a T-80B in terms of armor, which has decent armor for 10.7.
Which is unfortunate , not talking about Russia only here. The three major and Swed can destroy every other nation. Even if the US main want to cope about how bad the Abrams are. They are still far better than , say Brit with chally 3 TD or the top of the line Chally 2. Maybe the French with their Top tier line up can and Italy with a single 2A7V. But the rest ? It is straight up suffering simulator. Decompression , moving vehicle are clearly better out of the range of the weaker Top Tier MBT is an option but Gaijin sure as hell not gonna do it.
It is always funny seeing forum talking about Biased this Biased that but they completely ignore the problem of Minor nation really got nothing going for them. Sometime it ground sometime it is air but for most of the time it just Ground. They barely got nothing for the average player to grind them. Hell , even myself trying to grind Brit tree and it has been a really big and slow slog through the ground tree. Love how the Challies look but good lord these thing are just miserable to play
Brother you are using HEAT-FS in this screenshot, which is also the only thing Kontakt 1 is good against. Nobody in their right mind uses HEAT-FS against an MBT after they unlocked APFSDS.
Like this has to be bait right, because otherwise those screenshots are beyond stupid.
Even the T-90M is already considerably worse than the 2A7 for anybody with 2 braincells that cooperate every now and then.
OP lost its meaning is all.
Yup, you summed up Britains ground tree quite nicely. And the greatest shame, it’s entirely Gaijins intentionally doing. Plenty of really really interesting additions skipped or ignored and what we do have is often in a rather poor state
All of which can get frontally penetrated in an uptier match.
You do realize that the Maus being at 7.7 regularly sees HEATFS, APFSDS and ATGMs, right? Or are you going to just try to conveniently gloss over the fact that of the 3 tanks you mentioned - The Maus is the MOST vulnerable in an uptier?
You’re proving real fast how disingenuous you are.
You’re also forgetting that 155mm HE to the turret cheeks of the Maus will knock it out on the first shot. Angling isn’t as helpful as you think it is for the Maus. So long as the Maus is pointing the gun at you, the cheeks are always easy to cut through with any of the prior mentioned rounds. Angling won’t save it.
You’re still being disingenuous to try and support your lackluster argument, but you have nothing going for you at all.
For f’s sake, a BT-7M could kill a Leopard 2A7V—does that mean the BT-7M should be at 12.0? No. Anyone posting on this forum should know that in War Thunder, Getting Gaijined happens. It’s not always going to work—but you just need skill to deal with it. Sure, it’s unbalanced, but how come no one’s calling out the HE launcher users?
Take the Maus: by angling, it’s almost frontally proof against early APDS and APFSDS. By now, you should know better than to take averages into account, right?
The whole point of my argument is not your definition of armor, and being disingenuous doesn’t make me wrong. The Object 292 historically could take an ERA package, and since in-game balance allows for it without making it OP, it should be added. The main drawback of the Object 292 is its reload rate—a trade-off for the best APFSDS round at 1.3 BR lower than the second best.
As long as the tank’s main weakness—the reload speed—exists, anyone who isn’t an average P2W player should know how to kill it. Sorry, but if you can’t kill a T-72/T-80, that’s a skill issue. Both tanks have the same weak points, with their lower plates and driver ports being exploitable—if one doesn’t work, the other will.
The ERA package only resolves the issue of being penned in its non-weak spot areas, where it has composite armor. Sorry, but if you’re in your Leopard 2A7V in a down-tier, the Object 292 should be something you fear—just like how the Pz IV is for the KV-1, or the IS-2 is for the Tiger II.
You just described the object 195
Assuming the HE mechanic is consistent and everyone have 155m HE in their pocket at every time then sure.
Not even close. How much longer are you going to keep lying for? Additionally, being disingenuous DOES infact make you wrong. It also proves you’re completely dishonest and can’t be trusted to hold a good faith conversation.
The 292 needs nothing else. End of discussion. If anything, it needs to be uptiered.
It will definitely make it OP since Gaijin still isn’t adding any darts that can penetrate russian ERA, adding it to more tanks would definitely benefit the player in increasing the survivability and the BR, if you want ERA on your favorite tank then its place would be at 11.3-11.7, but making the tank’s hull unpenetrable with the best dart in the game and get to stay at the same BR is a braindead idea.
T90M is still the most armored tank in the game, Relikt eat Mavericks easily, you can’t lolpen the tank, if it gets a better transmission then it would definitely surpass 2A7.
Dawg this is so stupid it isn’t even worth respoding or is it rage bait who knows i’ll put ChatGPT to anwser this.
Seriously? If we wait for “magic darts” before giving ERA to every Russian tank, we’ll be stuck at 10.7 forever—and still get one-shotted by every NATO MBT. ERA isn’t some power-creep cheat code; it’s a historical upgrade that helps tanks survive flurries of incoming rounds. Dropping it behind an arbitrary 11.3–11.7 BR gate just forces everyone to trade off armor for more BR padding. Either give the kits where they belong or admit that your fear of “too much survivability” is just an excuse to keep everything glass-thin. -ChatGPT
It roughly shares the same weakspots as all the other T-series tanks. I have yet to have much trouble dealing with them in anything really.
Half your points are also beyond stupid though, so some saying applies here about a pot calling a kettle something? or something along those lines.
I would rather mobility over stronger armor because I could at least avoid getting shot at, with -4kph reverse horeshet there is no other way to play this tank other than in-your-face playstyle
