Are you aware of a concept called a glass cannon? Also the armor isnt even that bad, you would hate italy top tier
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clearly not true!!
Tell that to America who’s been having every single unique vehicle stripped away one by one every month
Zero vehicles have been removed from the American tech tree.
If you meant something else, you’ll have to clarify.
I don’t support it because it’s not accurate to the vehicle Gaijin based themselves to introduce into the game,
The surviving and only example of the Object 292 is capable of having ERA installed on the hull (as you can see by the bolts in the front of the chassis) but just like the in real life vehicle it’s not the case.
The vehicle is a tank destroyer dressed as a main battle tank you should keep that in mind, while you have a wonderful weapon it’s just that, the armor surely works but it won’t stop shells going into the lower frontal glacis,
I guess the firepower in one single shot and the damage in one single hit and decent mobility (for Soviet main battle tank standards) can counter any issue you find in this vehicle, overall I think it doesn’t need any improvements as it may cause unnecessary battle rating increase.
A 13.0 with a 10-second reload timer?
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With ERA it gonna be at least 11.7 due to people unable to aim and their shell doesn’t automatically go through when they point and click. The 292 as of now is a pretty fine vehicle , not good not terrible. Not too OP and not too weak. We do not need ERA for it. But Im down for cosmetic tho , wouldn’t hurt slapping fake ERA on your vehicle since we got people putting the entire ardennes on their vehicle
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292 is indeed OP at its BR, adding ERA and thermals definitely will make it worth 12.0
well you can do the same to anything that isn’t UFP of uparmored Leopard which you’re not going to face it with 292 unless you put something high BR so i don’t see the problem here.
And the ability to wipe off the floor of any MBT frontally with signature T-80 mobility and protection!
At present, Object 292 follows the configuration in reality. There’s nothing needs to be changed.
Besides,when can the T-80B obtain historical new frontal armor protection and remove the thermal sight?
Cough cough Churchill I… cough Maus… cough T95… cough KV-1.
The Object 292 wasn’t a glass cannon when it was first added at 10.0. It only became one after players started crying that it was OP, which led to Gaijin bumping it up to 10.7. Now it’s fast, hits hard, but dies if you sneeze at it.
You mean like the T-80U? Which literally runs at a higher rank at same BR? Or the KV-1? Do I really need to make a list of all the Soviet vehicles that show up across multiple tech trees? There’s already an entire suggestion to split the Russian tree in two because of how many vehicles it has.
I agree with your take on its current power level. But I’m just saying—if Gaijin decides to raise its BR to 11.0 or higher, then ERA would make sense. At its current BR, giving it ERA wouldn’t make it overpowered either. It wouldn’t solve its biggest issues like the long reload or the exposed weak spots—it would just make it a little less likely to get one-tapped by someone hitting your turret cheeks.
Dawg, if you’re moving it to 12.0, just give it the full BVM package at that point.
And even then—do you realize it would still be worse than the Leopard 2A7V? The Leo gets 40mm less pen, sure, but it has arguably the best armor, powerful MGs, a 6.0s reload, and better mobility.
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Calling the 292 OP is one of the takes of all time.
Every tank that’s not a BVM,T90M,B+ is worse than the 2A7, flawed logic.
BVM and T-90M are absolutely dusted by the 2A7 and Strv.
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I get where you coming from but you see what you did ? Offering br raise for 292 in exchange for some era tile that prob not gonna help much beside fooling the average joe who literally can’t aim ? You called all the available US main out of the woodwork just to call the 292 Op (It is not , strong sure but OP is not). You not gonna get anything useful out of this discussion
and the BVM and T-90M completely destroy most nations top tier beside the Leopards.
Ultimately its a compression issue, but if the Leopards were to move up to say 12.7, then the BVM at the very least would move up to 12.3 even if a lot of other 12.0s remained at 12.0.
But the 292 is a pain to deal with, especially when it gets downtiers. I find that shells like L23 consitantly take 2 or 3 shots to kill it, even if they pen and the 292 is a guranteed one shot against pretty much everything.
It is probably one of the most OP event tank they’ve ever added and, if it wasnt perhaps for the compression, should really be 11.0 at the very least compared to even 10.7s. Let alone tanks down to 9.7 that also have to face it.
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nah they both are same level if leo go up 12.7 so do BVM and 90M no exception
Not really. BVM I can see it however the T-90M? No. Unless you’re playing a Challenger (cough cough), you will always beat it into position for one, among its many other weaknesses.
Agreeable.
For all intents and purposes it is a worse T-80B. Worse armor, worse survivability, far worse reload, with the 292’s only advantage being the shell. While it is a good shell, It is 100% not worth the 10s reload. I’d say its fine as is, just that compression around the 292’s BR range could be solved.
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Just purely on the grounds they have a sligtly longer reload with slightly weaker shells and cant hulldown like everyone else can usually means they arent too hard to deal with. Though the Micro maps usually favour them heavily.
If we had some decently sized maps, they’d loose a lot of their current power and they are rather heavily carried by the obscenely OP CAS the soviets have at the moment.
So with proper proper decompression, they’d be fairly high, but just below the 2A7s
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