In the other thread I posted some screenshots that actually prove you’ll still need to aim for crew/ammo in order to OHK stuff. If you made a bad shot, you’re likely to kill only a single crew member which isn’t anything special from a round that will supposedly evaporate anything it hits.
That being said, if you need to aim your penetration matters far less and 3BM42 with 7.1s reload surely isn’t a worse combination in that regard.
Optics are trolly in general and are affecting many tanks in the game, 80B included.
T-80BVM is a better vehicle than Challengers, which is perfectly showcased by your stats.
Your 10.0/3 premium MBTs you play while being afk (KVT, DS, TURMS) all have pretty similar stats which is also a decent example.
Someone experiencing this surely wouldn’t come crashing into CS forums/reddit and saying AWP is brokenly OP and should be changed immediately. I hope you understand this.
I heard many times that USSR vehicles are braindead easy to play. Just hold W and let your armor absorb everything while lolpenning whatever you come across. This doesn’t look like something that’s particularly hard to perform.
Test drive it yourself.
If you fumble your shot you’re still more than capable of only killing a single crew member which isn’t ideal for a round that takes 10s to reload.
In my opinion you still need to aim that round at common weakspots in order to get satisfying results.
So you concede the Russian MBT at 11.7 is significantly better than the British 11.7 mbts. Well done we finally got there.
No numbnuts, they would be on the forum asking for it to be buffed, saying that it is underpowered. How the hell did you miss that line of reasoning? Missing the point every single time…
It is fun, which for me means I end up recklessly driving straight into the enemy team. Even then I still get significantly better stats in the BVM compared to the Challies. Surely no bias.
I’m honestly done with this conversation. Nothing fruitful ever comes from you, and at some point in the future I am sure we will see the BR move.
I never said British 11.7 tanks are great and in line with their USSR/US/GER/SWE contemporaries ?
In order to establish balance you either have to buff things that are assumed to be underperforming or nerf things that are assumed to be overperforming, it’s pretty simple.
Also, some weapons are pretty powerful in lower ranks (P90 for example), while in higher skilled lobbies tend to be pretty mediocre because people know how to counter it.
Shall we listen to a bunch of silvers that have limited game understanding and balance the game according to their opinions or what ?
As you should, considering tanks like BVM, SEPs, Leopards are noticeably better than Challengers so acquiring better stats in those shouldn’t be much of a challenge.
Yeah if there is a pecking order, Russia or Sweden are at the top, and Britain is firmly at the bottom, six feet under. The only reason the Gripen is good is because it’s also going to the Swedish tree. I’m kinda glad they didn’t give us the EAP, because it would just be another opportunity for them to model our tech as gimped shit.
It’s obvious that minor nations at plenty of tiers have less (and worse) options than major ones. They’re surely pushing to make Sweden a “major” nation, considering their TT is continuously expanding with good vehicles unlike some other minor nations that get drip-fed with vehicles that aren’t particularly good in the first place.
Britain surely lags behind top dogs a fair bit, but this is also true with other minor nations.
If any bias exists I would say it’s an anti-minor nation bias, which is being fueled by nothing more than business decisions in which they cater to stuff that’s widely played to increase profits.
This is one of the few big reasons I’m not buying premium vehicles, since obviously I don’t support that type of behavior.
Stuff like the HSTV-L exists at top tier US though, and it’s woefully bad at the moment. It was bad even before spall liners were added. So it isn’t just the big three they always favour. Russia specifically is favoured more in my opinion.
Out of curiosity - I watched one of your replays from a few days ago. It’s absolutely hilarious to confirm absolutely everything I thought about you. Sitting back in a safe location, playing extremely passive and looking to pick off people moving between objectives. Anyone can do that and achieve great looking kill/death ratios. It doesn’t really mean you’re influencing the outcome much. I personally find that type of gameplay boring, but if that’s what you find enjoyable all the power to you.
No
The top three are always the biggest
I’ve seen so many USA claim their Abrams is the worst tank in the game when its top Your just talking in bad faith now
All nations will have vehicle(s) throughout their TTs that aren’t doing so hot at their BR, so I highly doubt Gaijin can perfectly balance hundreds of vehicles from 10 nations with not so many BR steps to play with. Most of those issues could be solved by pushing top BR above 11.7, which is why I think that topic should be at the forefront of GRB discussions.
Obviously, tanks with spall liners powercrept older tech, which is why I think adding those without increasing top BR in GRB was a mistake and HSTV-L is yet another vehicle negatively affected by said addition.
Deleting clueless people moving from spawn to caps is probably the best long-term thing you can do to help your teammates at caps. I mean, you can’t get overrun and lose the cap point if there’s no one attacking you, right ?
To claim UK players have a bigger victim complex than major three mains is hilarious. Any time Russia, Germany, or the US aren’t perfectly catered to, they throw a massive tantrum. Just look at the abrams spall liner saga, which resulted in Abrams getting a blanket 1s reload speed buff lmao.
Of course, I’m not surprised to find that you’re a US main, who has barely dipped your toes into any trees outside of the big three.
Spall liners should have been in the game ages ago. There are British tanks which should have had them for years. The reason they were only added now is because the T-90M was added to the game, so now suddenly they care about modelling a mechanic now that it affects a Russian tank.
That’s fair enough, but the HSTV-L specifically is really underperforming for a 11.3 vehicle, and it was already nerfed heavily from its historical performance. I can’t think of any high tier Russian vehicles that have been given the same treatment.
He isn’t wrong when he said GB is not the worst nation in the game.
I doubt they changed Abrams’ reload speed because people cried their eyes out over it, considering Merkavas got the same buff while barely anyone cared enough to talk about them. This to me looks like they’ll do changes as they seem fit according to their internal data and players’ woes aren’t really something they’ll lose sleep over.
That being said, I believe Italy is the worst nation in the game right now. The last big update shook top tier, where most nations either got some decent additions or received buffs, meanwhile Italy’s tank(s) were nerfed lol.
Like, wtf is that, taking already pretty meh tank and butchering it even further ?
As I said, adding spall liners was a mistake in my eyes and felt pretty rushed. Most of that update felt rushed as well. Instead they should’ve took their time, gather more info about it and release the update with tanks going to 12.0 or above.
Giving it better shells should help a bit, but I think that decompressing and moving 11.7 MBTs up should be a much better “buff” to HSTV-L’s performance.
I’ve played it before spall liners were a thing and it was pretty decent at killing things unless you’re going against 122s. I’ll reiterate, spall liners at 11.7 were a mistake.
The difference is that the Merkava’s had strangely terrible reload rates, and the buff only brought them to a level they should’ve been from the start.
Meanwhile, the M1’s (which are already better tanks compared to Merkava’s from what I gather) received a reload buff that suddenly gives them the second best firepower in the entire game.
I get that, I was just trying to say that Gaijin will do what they want, people crying on the forums will have very little influence on their decisions. That’s why I mentioned Merkavas and Arietes.
Very few people play those nations, thus very few posts are made about them and still Gaijin decided to do some changes (good and bad) to those tanks.
From what I can see, US was probably totally abandoned by veterans who flocked to nations that had something new and exciting (RU, GER, SWE), while SEPv2 is just a c/p of initial SEP and brings nothing new to the table.
Pair this with Click-Bait spam from wallet warriors and I’m sure US performance absolutely tanked and Gaijin felt like they needed to act on that. I don’t think M1s deserved to be buffed before other, much weaker MBTs but it is what it is. Gaijin will prioritize their money making nations.
Ah yes, 5 nations all the way up to 11.7 ground is totally a US main trait. Compared to your what, 2 nations up to 11.7 ground? Lmao.
And unlike you I can actually play this game at a somewhat decent level.
Sure I should have worded it a bit better, but Britain and France just have this massive victim complex compared to the other minor nations (and no, I don’t consider Sweden a minor nation anymore for ground).
It would sit better at 9.7 because of the 10.0sec reload I enjoy playing Object 292 but it sits at a little too high for it’s BR because you can be pushed up to 11.0 lobbies with tanks that easily outclass it in every way I hope that one day it could be moved down but i’m not going to complain about a very capable vehicle in the right hands.