The issue is largely the perfect SACLOS guidance once they have launched. If they required a radar lock to fire this issue would be gone.
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Issue is, you can evade Rolands. You can’t evade Osas. Believe me, I’ve tried; you could be scraping the ground and the Osa would track you perfectly because even when its radar is off, it manually guides the missile in all the way to you because, as you mentioned, aimbot SACLOS. Hence I propose three changes to make things balanced again:
- Require Osas and Rolands to keep their radars on to guide missiles.
- Re-nerf Osas and Rolands back down to their 5deg/s track rate they had, prior to their 15deg/s track rate buff they got a couple days ago.
- Disallow both systems from being able to fire on the move.
That way you at least get a warning when an Osa or Roland is guiding on you, they’re able to be more effectively countered by SEAD, and they can be more easily evaded. Everybody wins.
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Actually, i’m not sure if they’s accurate when it comes to the AI
I’ve had them sometimes shoot 2, in some cases even 3 missiles before the 1st one has even reached it targets
I can’t tell if they are all going for the same target in the start tho and simply switch switch after the 1st missiles makes impact or if they are splitting up from the start
Issue is, you can evade Rolands. You can’t evade Osas
No, you can evade Osa’s, it just requires a lot of energy that you cannot easily get back. But neither system should be able to fire on the move or fire on a supersonic jet without a radar lock
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Ive done quite a bit of SEAD work. What’s most likely happening is that a couple Osas are grouped close enough together that it looks like multiple missiles firing at once
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Best way I’ve found to evade an Osa is to dive behind a hill. Unfortunately those are in short supply around the center of the map…
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Rather than close, they would have to be inside of each other at that point since it should be quite obvious how many there are at 1-2km
But even on the kill cam i don’t tend to see any visible signs if there being multiple in the same spot unless they are just 100% perfectly aligned or the kill cam simply hides the other ones that didn’t get the kill shot
All it takes is enough energy. The problem is that the Phantom bleeds energy really quickly, setting you up for a second missile
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This is Gaijin we are talking about. The AAA are regularly placed under the map.
But more telling for this behavior is the fact that the larger SAM sites (BUK, Hawk, S-300, Patriot) only fire one missile at a time, even when they are perfectly capable of firing multiple.
Don’t mind that person too much, if something isn’t exactly how they want it, when they want it and where they want it it’s suddenly bad/worthless/shouldn’t happen.
@Smin1080p_WT is it planned to add aircraft carrier and player/AI controlled ships to this event in the future? Large chunk of the map is ocean, so I am curious
Dude Russian teams are already well off with the 9-13 and MLD being insane. The R-27 and R-73 combo is disgusting and you want more of them on a better plane??
We cannot be serious rn.
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As someone who actually uses the plane, I’ve only killed unaware people that refuse to notch or evade with Phoenixes. Missile diamonds still exist so the poor RWR argument can’t hold weight.
don’t think it’s working as intended
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I do one thing that works good enough with them. I target people way behind the line and from altitude , they don’t expect it…
Just be aware that s300 can shoot down the missiles if something is too far back.
As soon as i kept my discipline with it i was in a 5:1KD/R and i was never practically threatened.
The problem is…it’s kinda boring and time consuming. You can get better results (in points) if you actually fight. But for the memes it was fun.
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US needs a better stock fighter the F4E is pretty bad. We need f4j
Stop censoring all the criticism
You will find over 6000 comments giving instructive feedback and no arguments.
Yours was just a rant with 0 feedback and you started to argue with someone.
Anyway this isn’t the place for discussing removed comments, You can do so in pm’s with us.
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Roland was given 10 ready to fire while Osa was given 6. It visually only has 2, but it can fire 10 afaik. I think it was done as a balance feature since the Osa is better in every other metric.
In the low tier? Man i play 4J, it will masacre them… a few 4J/S in the mix are ok and in the games i played we always have 4-5 players with them.
If you ask me we just need a F-111F , the thing could carry HARMs and nukes. Pretty similar with SU-24.
And the F-4E i’m pretty sure it could carry Shrike from the box without mods.
The ground pound options US has are pretty lacking , even against the subsonic Su-25T…Clearly SU-24 is from another planet in comparison.
And that’s why US loses in the lower bracket. They don’t have capable “delivery” systems…