Nuclear Thunder!

F-4S already curbstomps the low lobby vs the 23MLs lol. US just curbstomps but people think RU is the problem with 5 ppl in que vs 500 US lol.

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MLD is more than equal to F4S or F4J

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Another nuke Baby, USA is busted in any BR imo lol



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MLD is not equal to F-4S/J when MLD have to hug ground otherwise its radar is worthless while F-4S can just multipath the 24Rs while just popping up for split second to launch 7F in a way that would splash the multipathing 23. But if it would be equal then why there is 100x times more US in que than RU.

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F-4S has a better radar, and as good to better missiles.

yep MLD cant even fly high cause MTI works only below 2000 meters

strawman strawman go away and come another day.

We were talking about the M29 not the Su33

are you sure we are playing the same gamemode? No one is engaging in bvr because of the big scary sams lying around everywhere. Its all a furball where IR missiles are fired left and right.

please quote me on where i mentioned the R27ER?
I didnt mention anything about any plane being superior to another, i just mentioned they are “equivalent to each other”

btw the F4S has to be looking at you to lock you its HDN PD only also the same can happen with splash with R24s

I know, and it needs to keep nose pointed at horizont otherwise the MTI doesnt work either and switches to regular SRC.

maybe cause there are more premiums on US side in br range its literally free SL right now

F-4S doesnt have to be looking at me,it have HMS which have ACM PD, so all you need is not notch and it will lock

F-4S and 23ML,23ML is more popular in regular ARB,this is just US cope trying to justify the curbstomp

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its not cause the russians have 2 premiums there america has 4

F4S F5C F20A AV8B NA A10A and F/A-18C early
vs
SU39 MIG-23ML and Su25K

those russian premiums also suck unfortunately.

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MLs okay its pretty decent for its BR

@Kingskofi
I’ve seen over 20 people engaging in radar missile slinging because that’s the fastest way to get B52 and Tu-95.
Mig-29 can get a Tu-95 before escalation 3 hilariously easily:

Your response to me saying USA has no equivalent to Su-33 for this game mode was to cite F-15A, an equivalent to Mig-29.
Which I’ve said many times here.

You’re claiming I’m wrong for saying F-15A is equivalent to Mig-29.

So, do you agree with me that F-15A and Mig-29 9.13 are equivalents?

and whats your ping

ACM only works within 12miles and highly doubt it its not ACM HDN PD as it wouldnt make sense if the radar can only HDN PD in SRC mode

and even with PD/MTI both struggle hitting multipathing targets

radar missile slinging != bvr buddy, it can also occur WVR

please quote me, when did i ever say this, explicitly

Im going to end this conversation here since its not going to go anywhere because youre making things up

there pretty close but are better than eachother in one area
BVR for 29 and dogfighting for the F15