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Here is the strat that works for me using only the free jets:

  1. Spawn the phantom with aim9l, mig23 with the R23T.
  2. Fish for kills until 250 sp.
  3. Use ccip (big grey target on ground) or ccrp (click on map with red bracket then enable automatic release then line up with green line then hit mach 1 and from 20km out pitch up while holding down secondary weapon release) to toss the 5kt nuke at the least defended bulk of tanks and spaa.

This got me the 7k score needed in like 90 minutes using the f4 and the mig23.

Others in sim discord got an alternative:

Use ballistic computer and ccip with zuni rockets to strafe ground targets as u.s until 250 sp.

Nota bene: if you survive the nuke run you can rearm infinitely

2435

I don’t care about the bombers enough to suffer this stupid event but thanks for the strat anyway

2436

Just any players without US / USSR aircraft that high. It really should’ve just been either fixed presets completely, or at least the best air to air options available for everyone alongside the current lineups.

Bringing your own plane is fine so long as it doesn’t give an advantage. If it gives some fun gameplay options that’s cool, maybe a bit of added flavor, but it shouldn’t be needed to be equal to other players.
Without doing anything wrong people are punished with more than full uptiers here, that’s just not balanced.

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2437

Yeah, this is the boat im in, just terrain masking low and fast with a nuke on the F-4 because there isn’t really anything I can actually do against a wall of Mig-29s

Thankfully years of playing the Tonka has made me quite good at that

They could have at least given an F-4 with PD for the US side.

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2438

I’m no US main. Also no RU main.

Even for me B-52 is far better prize than the Tu-95. Alot ppl think like this, obviously.

2439

Which would have been sound, if it weren’t for the fact players can drag in other stuff. So then the Mig 29 would be evenly matched against the preset, and still stomped by everything else, effectively making the America focused balancing even more harsh.

In the current climate, they either ought to harshly lock down presets or if they’re still inclined on permitting disproportionate air supremacy platforms on the side of the west at least permit a base flanker. Or a su 33 with a slightly restricted armament. Or my preference; permit a su 34 with an air to ground focused payload, as it would at least justify the asymmetric situation.

2440

Gaijin do something with the OSAs, for the love of God !

2441

Which briliant mind at Gaijin balanced this gamemode? Why F-4E Phantom and Mig-23 have to fight 13.0 planes? Why F-14 IAF, F-15, F-18 are even allowed? They just wipe the floor with unexperienced players. Why Su-27 is not allowed in that case?

Either forbid taking your own plane or give russia more options to fight with.

obraz

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2442

Same can be said about MIG-29 and unexperienced players that are playing from US side. Though they should probably remove F-14 and F-15

2443

I’m starting to doubt the balance issue is just a mistake considering how they didn’t do anything to fix it yet.

I mean I have seen an F-15 do 12k+ points in one game while the best standard lineup player I’ve seen got ~3k. This really shouldn’t be a thing in a fun, casual april fools event when those historically had balanced setups.

Again, this is beyond even full uptiers, something like a MiG-23MLD (11.7, highest BR standard plane) faces F-14B (13.0). This is just needlessly reintroducing the problem that the BR system is meant to fix.

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2444

How many points you get by launching a small or a medium nuke and destroying a base?

2445

I play Mig-29 and I agree that F-4E is easy target. But I dont see that much Migs-29 as F-14 or F-15. This mode would be much more fun without those planes

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2446

yak and mig´s-29 allow too

2447

I agree with that.
As for less MIG-29s, most player might have not bothered grinding that line at all hence we don’t see them quite often

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2448

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2449

Mig 29 could also be added to the preset with a historic armament, with a more advanced phantom to counter it, providing a more interesting engagement profile than just “Let there be Fakours”. But would require there to be no additional platforms present.

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2450

Yeah, but at the same time though, the Mig23MLD has a massive advantage over the F4E. Because all I can use is 9Ls Vs large calibre Flares meanwhile I have to defend against R-24Rs. Let alone Mig29s firing R-27ERs

2451

I had a 10k+ game last night just nuking stuff using low level tactics, but I had to use every scrap of my low level attacker knowledge to do that. Would be a lot easier without markers

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2452

I had several matches with 2-3 Mig-29 elite players massacring generic Phantom teams. Its the ru F-15 / F-14 / F-18 situation mirrored.

FM and speed of the Fulcrum, solid radar, adv IR missiles, R27ER. Ouch.

They were circling in front of our airfield and shot everyone down. No chance.

2453

I would agree with you, but if everyone could contest the Mig 29 it would be the death knell for the few playing for the Soviets. There just would be no means to compete. Even I, with my fondness for Soviet/Russian strike platforms and SEAD in particular, am having a hard time justifying it with the wall of F15s and Fakours every round.

It’s just fundamentally flawed with the BRs permitted and/or permitting outside platforms to the preset.

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