If you think you can fight as well with a RISE as you can a T55AMD1, you’re brain damaged.
And no, this is simply the fact that Gaijin baked it in to make it tougher on USA at the beginning because they wanted to make it a ‘unique playstyle’ of USA. Which was f***ing unnecessary. I’m not here to mince words about how “Everything is so grand” with you again.
The fact is the USA line, as a major nation, is intentionally tougher at skill floor.
And you have the absolute dunderheaded idea that the skill floor for Russia is higher throughout?
Better armor, better layouts, less visibility thanks to the spotting mechanic that is almost the exact same as World of Tanks… slightly longer reload, but EXTREMELY punchy guns, albeit with less accuracy (which at top tier is neglible), and oh yeah, always a little lower BR in many areas of the game, and you’re saying they’re not worth it?
F***ing GET, no one wants your brain-damage around here with that mess.
So true
The entire arguement is
Why not give m833 to m1?
-Because its doesnt need it
Why doesnt it?
-Because its good enough
It currently have a round that is not good enough for its respective BR and there are othet mbts at the same BR that is better than it(with pros and cons of course)
-No it does not need it
Why not?
Goes back to square one*
Since when
Since when theres that small of a difference between m774 and dm23
Better velocity, better projectile mass(affect spall) but 1 sec slower but also better armor, same gun handling and only ever so gingerly slower mobility
but worse armor as u can pen lfp of abrams with dm23 but not the fp of the leo(with m774)
Since when we were talking about DM13 ?
I suggest you reading the discussions before commenting.
This is why I lost my mind on them earlier. I’m not asking for M900 at 10.7, and some argue that it must be left up to Gaijin, and yet, they also deem that it is player skill issue. Considering player skill issue is a problem across every single BR, adding a historical round to M1 which actually carried it isn’t game-breaking.
Yes you can as RISE has similar mobility, better reload, gun handling, gun depression, reload speed.
Yeah Gaijin baked in anti-US bias, tell me more please.
I already said to you why USSR is without a doubt the hardest major TT to play with as a beginner. Your guns might be punchy, but total lack of gun handling and other things make up for that and even some.
Ease up with insults, you sound genuinely disturbed.
The Leos have both round and even then dm13 is still better than m774 with trade of being reload rate
and guess what leo is slightly better armored than it being turret ring is one pixel instead of 10
Tell me why m833 is not needed for abrams ?
Because its good enough is not a valid arguement
Just because it have ~3 more hp/t doesnt mean its better in everything else
Yeah buddy I’m not trading 1s of reload for 12mm of added pen.
Because the reload makes up for your lower pen ?
the leo HAS DM23
THE LEO HAS BOTH
Ease up with yours, you are genuinely disturbed when you continually insult people via gaslighting. If you can’t handle the reality that the trade-off of a better round versus slightly longer reload is worth it, hey, you are legitimately seeking to insult others who play the game.
Yes, they did. Or do you forget that over half the modern tanks don’t have the same stats that they actually run with and Gaijin’s own owner admitted they did so to ‘balance’ the nations according to different playstyles?
Friend, you are 1900 posts late in realising this.
Exactly, the circular argument of nays vs. ayes.
Sometimes you can reach a middle-ground, sometimes you can convince them otherwise, sometimes not.
I mean can you fire a missile away from them and turn it in last few seconds ?
Highly depends as Merkava has worse gun depression and won’t be able to use some of the same spots.
Shame that thing doesn’t get a ammo box, would be a good improvement.
Good thing you aren’t meeting autocannons that often, whereas you’ll meet DM23 and better rounds basically in 99% of your engagements.
I’d say your vulnerability to 30mm cannons is much less of a problem than having your whole hull cosplaying as a piece of paper to 10.0 shells and above.
Great to see that, that thing was ridiculous.
They are trolly, but they still have huge areas where even stock darts of some top tier tanks can go through. Their turrets are also humongous with barrels sitting pretty low, meaning your commander/gunner can get easily sniped without you even showing your barrel. I noticed this with OTOMATIC as well and it’s aggravating.
Indeed, but I’d always want to have my front armor facing the enemy, that is if I had any to begin with lol.
I agree with versatility for the most part but survivability not quite. Shooting inside the red area will seriously cripple the tank, if not outright kill it in one shot. Shots higher on the UFP (as shown) can easily go over it’s engine so most of the spalling will remain. Any survivability advantage lies in it’s ability to better side-scrape.
Sometimes you can’t even go for the hull and breeching them is the only option.
Top tier Leopards are definitely better in hull down, top tier Merkavas ? Not so much.
Looks quite similar to me.
Include the driver’s port as well.
Yeah so hitting them on the sides can lead to unsatisfactory results.
Wasting ammo on such a “half-shots” might be a viable strat with M1s, but not so much with other vehicles that have 10/15 rounds in the turret stowage.
Maybe not for poor Arietes lol.
Majority of them has 3-4x as a base zoom.
Well he said that with French rounds everything went boom but with US ones things didn’t spall at all.
M1 is really good hence doesn’t need buffs.
2A4 is really good hence doesn’t need buffs.
I’m not asking for buffs for neither.
I don’t really agree that 2A4 is overall a better vehicle, so there’s that.
No I don’t.
I’m not speaking hypotheticals, I actually tried both vehicles and found them quite good.
I can’t say how 2A4 would perform with DM13 only.
I doubt anything will change regarding M1 anytime soon, I might be wrong though.
Even if you could convince anyone here of anything, Gaijin will not add it until they see statistically that it needs it. Whole discussion is pointless.
So now all of a sudden stating my experiences and opinions is insulting lol.
DM23 is slightly better than M774.
5s is slightly better than 6s.
Great to agree.
Try removing the tinfoil hat and try again ?
When it’s insulting the intelligence of other players, yes.
More circular arguments. DM23 would still be better than M833. And armor pen and spalling is better than M774 by a wide margin.
Try putting no spaces between your question mark and your words. Like this? Then try removing your own hat of dunce and understand that your argument is fruitless.
Someone is insulting your intelligence by not agreeing with you, got it.
5.5s would still be better than 6s.
Why don’t we do that as well ?
Yeah, DM23 feels like DM53 in comparison to M774. /s (I think you need this)
Nothing wrong in placing spaces after you end writing a word.
You talking about this is pretty weird.
Only thing that’s fruitless here are the cries for M833, as Gaijin haven’t acted on it for literal years.