Now With the M1 being Brought to 10.7, Can We Finally Receive M833?

Same goes for you as M833 would still be the worst performing MBT round at 10.7 but would bring the M1 closer to parity in terms of firepower.

The reload argument is dead now - Other tanks got reload buffs. Find a better argument - Oh, hold on you actually can’t because the one partial argument you could mention you lost. It’s time for you to concede rather than to keep dying on this worthless hill you’ve built for yourself.

The reload argument is dead now - Other tanks got reload buffs. Find a better argument - Oh, hold on you actually can’t because the one partial argument you could mention you lost. It’s time for you to concede rather than to keep dying on this worthless hill you’ve built for yourself.

I must have missed those other reload buffs for the other 10.7 vehicles. They still look the same to me.

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I’ve made observations that your account can’t be blocked and you enter every single US thread, even though you’ve never played the US line much at all. You’re an English main.

In short, you can’t speak for the M1 at all.

Yet somehow you propose yourself a supporter of ‘balance’, without ever actually proposing how to make the game less frustrating for players of top tier US.

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What you meant to say is:

I’ve made incorrect observations that your account can’t be blocked and you enter every single US thread, even though you’ve got most of the US line unlocked for air and ground.

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Yes, that is why I was talking about spalling as well.

105mm rounds tend to spall less than 120mm / 125mm rounds, too.

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Just so. Also dependent on where the tank is struck, hence why some rounds overpenetrate sides without spalling as much. M833 would be a sweet spot without being OP for spalling punch and for penetration. Even the M1IP’s performance shows this.

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I said what I said, and the mods know it. Hence why they’ve entered this thread multiple times to get you to back down with your attitude.

You’re imagining versions of events as they never happened once again. You have been shown by more than just me that your whole notion of private accounts is nonsense, you just refused to accept the evidence presented to you as you do with anything that goes against your pre-conceived narratives much like your whole position in this thread, or from statements from gaijin in relation to this thread topic.

Also discussing moderation is not allowed, and you know very well that people in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

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So what ?
Let’s just buff other tanks so their cons would get closer to parity. Makes no sense to buff a vehicle’s metric just because: “Oh look, another tank at same BR has better [insert metric]”.

I surely missed this, tell me which 10.7 vehicles got reload buffs ?

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We’ve discussed the cons ad nauseum, and none of you can really lay claim to any feasible thing other than overall performance.

You also fail to recognize that most people bring a M1 into a uptier as a back-up vehicle, and thus you can’t say that it’s performance is as good at its own tier since it will often come in to face light tanks or SPAAs at the end of a match, rather than face-to-face within its own metric.

Coincidentally, not even Gaijin can come up with those stats, more than likely.

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Mhm, I know you’re not going to accept any evidence that you don’t agree with. I’m still waiting on your answer as to why gaijin have not given the M1 M833 when they have specifically said on multiple occasions in relation to bug reports submitted on it that it is a tool of balance and will only be given if the performance deems it with the data the devs have.

Why have they not added it then if the M1 is performing so badly?

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I’ll repeat again.

You also fail to recognize that most people bring a M1 into a uptier as a back-up vehicle, and thus you can’t say that it’s performance is as good at its own tier since it will often come in to face light tanks or SPAAs at the end of a match, rather than face-to-face within its own metric.

Coincidentally, not even Gaijin can come up with those stats, more than likely.

The results of my suggestion come from playing at its tier at first spawn.

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Raw armor pen value will directly impact spalling, so it’s basically the same thing.

Okay, but this still isn’t the only thing that matters when it comes how easily you can deal with an enemy.

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And the data is still awful.
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And again, this is why M774 even buffed isn’t doing the same job as the 120s and 125s.

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You also fail to recognize that most people bring a M1 into a uptier as a back-up vehicle, and thus you can’t say that it’s performance is as good at its own tier since it will often come in to face light tanks or SPAAs at the end of a match, rather than face-to-face within its own metric.

Zero evidence for any of this conjecture. Certainly nothing to show that this is any different for other nations either. Please provide tangible evidence.

Do you want another chance at answering the question?

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What is NaN?

Sure, but penetration and spalling are two important factors.
Reload helps when you need to take a second shot, or for getting multiple kills in quick succession.
If you can 1-shot most of the time, there is no need to take a second shot.

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Not enough data to tell the K/D ratio.

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Again, because it can’t be shown through your metrics that you and the others cling to. I base off my games, which you have none of.

So your anecdotal experience which you don’t have any proof of either. Cool, there are also other people in this thread who are notably more skilled than you who say the opposite to you. So what?

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Fing WOW. XD

“We’re balanced, we’re balanced!”

Balance: No metric available, please see our stonewallers for future arguments.

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