You forgot that firepower isn’t just about the shell you fire, it’s about the reload speed as well. For example, something like 120S can fire ~600mm round every 5 seconds, meanwhile Object 292 can fire ~700mm round every 10 seconds. It’s pretty obvious that former can dish out more damage in a given period of time, so it’s firepower will be greater even with a slightly worse shell.
That being said, from your list I’d only give firepower advantage to CRs (for the first 3 shots) and Ariete.
In order to kill something you’ll firstly have to place the gun on target, so you’ll use gun handling and gun depression to achieve that. It coincides that most vehicles from your list with higher penning rounds (especially T-series tanks) have worse gun handling as well, which is yet another factor in how effective your vehicle will be at killing others.
Someone always has to be the worst at something at a given BR.
T-series tanks have awful gun handling, gun depression, reload speed, reverse speed and (often) mobility when compared to M1, but no one here is looking for a buff just because other vehicles at the same BR have higher values in those areas.
You’ll just have to understand vehicles should have their pros and cons, it’s part of the balancing process.
At this point i’ve seen people bring out the fact that Gaijin taking action base on their static was a good things.
But the fact is Gaijin isn’t alway right. Not to mention they don’t even share their static data with us.
I still remember when they add Pantsir S1 and state in their devblog why they do that is becasue “their static” Show that 2S6 Tunguska was significantly inferior to others SPAA. Even though 2S6 are a bit better than ADATS at AA job. And US still has to use ADATS till this day.
Not talking about performance. my post was about the change in the MM pool after the change.
Where the FACT is ALL lost a significant portion of the full down-tier potential.
Is the “DATA” you speak of for the ENTIRE player base, or like thunderskill only from players who registered. which are on average better players, who want their stats monitored. So in my opinion a suggestive source to begin with.
Not talking about performance. my post was about the change in the MM pool after the change.
Where the FACT is ALL lost a significant portion of the full down-tier potential.
Yes I addressed this in my post. You may wish to re-read it.
Is the “DATA” you speak of for the ENTIRE player base, or like thunderskill only from players who registered.
It has been explicitly mentioned multiple times within this thread that the only sizable data we have available comes from the war thunder data project which draws from thunderskill. The other data that has been mentioned is the data that only gaijin has access to and balances off of. In both instances the M1 appears to be performing adequately.
which are on average better players, who want their stats monitored.
This point has already been raised (by myself) earlier in the thread. This statement however equally applies to the statistics we have for all the vehicles from the war thunder data project. So if we are operating under the assumption that the data set is comprised of more skilled players, then that would indicate that those skilled players perform better in the M1 compared to the soviet and german vehicles at the same BR.
So let’s change the gun depression and gun handling of T-series tanks to the point they’re still the worst by a very slight margin. It would still be a buff, and an unneeded one.
We already discussed about this. Finite numbers of BR steps don’t allow this to happen in a proper way, which ends up to using various methods in order to fine tune vehicles further.
They’re already looking at improving the reload rate of T-Series Auto loaders
Things like this is also why a large amount of people switch to War Thunder from world of tanks too much artificial stuff makes the game incredibly boring (WoT not WT I understand some things are just not possible to get right)
Russian main doesn’t seem to complain that much, if we wanted to we would open a thread every other day to request for better reload time or better ammunition to offset the -4 kph reverse speed bro lol