And again, one slightly better performing tank versus 3 or 4 average tanks, the better performing tank is outmatched. But since we’re also including uptiers against T90As, Type 90s, and whatnot, how about we see those stats?
Absolutely irrelevant and you’re once again arguing about line-ups. Vehicles are balanced based on their individual performance and moved around accordingly. Hence why you often have vehicles on their own at BRs.
Did you pick a range or just a certain BR, like 10.7?
If you change the BR range setting from 1 to 0 it allows you to select the vehicles from that specific BR by clicking on the coloured box in the table.
I see.
Did you select 10.0 & 10.3?
I’d selected 10.3 (now 10.7) for the main three and also selected 10.0 (now 10.3) for USSR since dinfire was bringing up the 10.3 USSR vehicles in regards to the M1.
And again, not irrelevant, because no one vehicle wins a match alone. But keep trying to dismiss it because you are who you are.
Further interesting point, 9.3 gets sucked up often to 10.3 now, since the 10.7 M1s get more uptiers against 11.0.
As a result, T72As and MBT70s get to go against a crudload of very powerful tanks.
But a T72A can still fight at 10.7 thanks to its gun.
Take an M1 into a 12.0 match, you’re not looking so hot.
It’s just so cool that Gaijin mutilated USA’s 10.3 line-up by leaving only the 120S as an " MBT " when all it is, is a glorified tank destroyer. Relegating the USA 10.0-10.3 to basically being forced to do nothing but play defensively because there’s now zero obj pushing authority.
Meanwhile the 10.3 Abrams that got uptiered did so with no relief or compensation.
I’ve gone and deleted my top tier US line-ups. The nation is just Dead in the Water.
It is irrelevant because we are not discussing line-ups for the US at 10.7. It is not the topic of discussion and vehicles are balanced and moved in BR because of their individual performance.
I literally just said this.
Before the BR changes.
After the BR changes.
This would be a valid complaint if tanks were made entirely of turret rings, but sadly for you, that’s not the case.
1s faster reload is not just slightly slower when you consider how fast things go at that BR. Also, DM23 is far from anything special and you’ll still need to aim for weak spots, just like with M774.
Take this complaint to the thread about HEAT-FS specifically. Tanks are being judged in it’s spaded state, and I’m pretty sure M1 doesn’t come with HEAT-FS only.
You’ll still need to aim for crew/ammo, regardless of your round and this apply to literally anything you shoot at, doesn’t matter if it’s MBT or a light tank. Of course, if it isn’t your goal to kill only a single crew member and watch how you get blasted by their perfectly operable vehicle.
Also, gun handling does matter because: faster you can get your gun on target = better.
Every available stat we have shows it’s fine.
Gaijin not decreasing it’s BR or buffing it with a better shell is also yet another reason that makes me believe M1 is more than fine where it’s now.
Not irrelevant. You’re welcome. Now quit repeating your lines like it’s gonna change the actual experience.
Vehicles should be balanced accordingly to their BRs and their likely opponents.
Hence my suggestion. Your refusal to acknowledge it is not gonna change the BRs or the line-ups for other players.
And again, goalpost moving.
What you see in stats is players in USSR using more tanks to take out M1s.
You’re also seeing an influx of new players thanks to the sale, meaning new players are grinding USSR.
To wit, “Gaijin not decreasing” means not a damned thing to the player because Gaijin is the company, not the players.
It is irrelevant, I will repeat it as many times as is necessary because it is irrelevant. You plugging your ears and trying to shift goalposts and bring up other unrelated things will not make it anymore relevant.
Vehicles are balanced based on their performance. They are not based around setting up line-ups. Trying to argue that the M1 should get buffed in-place of having an existing line-up is nonsense. It’s a non-argument and this isn’t how things work and you plugging your ears won’t change it.
It is relevant to the gameplay and the vehicle.
You plugging your ears and acting like it isn’t won’t change it.
I know, it really sucks to be held to a standard of gameplay and how line-ups stack and how that would affect players’ experience in a vehicle, nevertheless, there we are.
You know what, you are welcome to believe whatever you wish to believe regardless of how much truth there is in it. It isn’t going to change the reality of the situation however.
I had more than 100 games with UK’s 10.3/10.7 vehicles in the last week or so, I still have to end up in a mixed battle.
So you’re dodging. An expected response.
DM23 is still very noticeably better than M774, and 1 second isn’t that major a difference frankly.
It does get HEATFS stock and getting shafted by stock performance shouldn’t be overlooked so casually. Same can be said for 10.0 tanks upward, where stock settings leave basically every tank as practically fodder isn’t healthy. Anyways.
Uh, no. Warsaw doesn’t have to pixel hunt - They can point and click and that first shot on NATO does one of two things; Kills it or cripples it outright. Gun handling is irrelevant when it comes to corridor fights which the large majority of the maps are, especially when Russian armor has overperforming LoS which shrugs off shots it has no business shrugging off even at point blank range. Russians easily abuse it whipping around corners, eating shells point blank that should’ve penetrated and then killing the tank that shot them without having to aim past center mass.
Gaijin is Biased and we’ve been seeing evidence of it for years. The M1 isn’t fine where it is now and wasn’t even fine at 10.3 - How about those lazy louts actually fix the tank and give it proper ammunition, first. Then we can talk about whether it’s fine or not.
Likewise, you’ve been doing that from the start since I made the suggestion, I’m glad you finally gave me permission to believe such things as actual played experience, Mister English main! My gosh, what would I do without your permission?
lol
Ah so just more of dinfires anecdotal out of the usual matchmaking as he mentioned earlier. Perhaps gaijin has applied a filter to him that discriminates against him or perhaps he is just a statistical anomaly. We shall never know.
Just like your anecdotes that the M1’s gun isn’t underpowered in comparison to its competition.
Which anecdotes?
