You mean like how necrons has been for years?
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And I can handle Necrons, thanks, this is off-topic, take it to the PMs if you must.
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lol ok
He is right though. It’s easy to “forget” something when you base a lot of your BR changes on players’ stats, where tank in question is an event vehicle that might not be played that much.
Moderna, 292 and T-80B are 10.7.
And how’s that relevant to this topic ?
I’ll stand corrected, nevertheless, they’re being sucked up regularly to 11.3 now, where they get to meet a 577mm pen APFSDS.
Considering that I’ve made it quite clear that 10.7 is no longer viable for only the M774, I’d argue I’ve made it pretty relevant.
Why is only the IPM1 equipped with the M833 and sitting at 11.3, when the M1 and M1 KVT have been in the tech tree even longer?
10.7 is the old 10.3 for the most part. Ton of MBTs moved up in sync as additional BR step was added. I don’t see how M774 isn’t viable at 10.7, considering it was viable at old 10.3 as well.
I have no idea why are you bringing up M833 and IPM1 when that tank uses M900.
Again. The IPM1 is the only M1 using M833 currently (first tier round). The M900 is a fourth-tier round. The rest are all M1A1 or above. Meaning a 120mm.
The M1 and M1 KVT have M774 as their fourth tier round.
So why shouldn’t the M833 be added to M1 and M1 KVT as fourth-tier round, same as M900 is for IPM1?
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Because it doesn’t need it at it’s current place ?
Spaded tank’s specs are what matters in the end.
And the M833 should be added to the M1 and M1 KVT as spaded tanks.
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It make sense as they know that M833 was just a slight buff and a good M774 replacement. And it doesn’t make M1 Abrams became OP at such BR.
Not with M774 being fix (having lower than 350mm flat pen and angle pen lower). M833 should replace M774 as its top APFSDS. So can it remain balance at 10.7
A “Slight buff” that barely change anythings. People get the gist of this. Thus it is fine to add M833.
If this was XM-1 asking for M833 then i would have agree with you but that isn’t the case.
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It’s already faster, has the best reload, and is decently tanky.
If your going to give it an unneeded buff then your going to have to give unneeded buffs to everyone.
A 5 second reload to every other 10.7 tank would be fine
Buffing already pretty strong tank at it’s BR is ridiculous. That’s the most uncalled-for thing you can have in this game.
Even with the nerfed M774, M1 would still be more than fine to drive at 10.7.
Slight buff is still a buff, something M1 doesn’t need.
Unneeded buff ? As i said M774 should get fix and M833 should replace it. And it doesn’t change what M1 Abrams has to aim.
As for buff for others
As long as it doesn’t break balance and are reasonable. I’m fine with that.
For human loader for others are possible. But Auto loader could get as close as 6.5 or somethings like that. If i remember right.
Except it would, the tanks are absolutely fine. That is as balanced as you can get.
Giving them a buff is going to tip the scale and make things unbalanced.
The tanks aren’t fine nothing is fine at high tier it needs fixed across the board desperately that’s why I now tend to stay away from higher tier play
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Again a buff that doesn’t change what M1 Abrams has to aim or how it will be use.
It is ridiculous that some people can’t accept this fact. And are so against it.
At the same time Even with M833. M1 Abrams would still be balance at such BR.
A buff that doesn’t break balance . Something that M1 Abrams can get and should get as M774 should be fix anyhow.
Ok ? How so ? I will ask you the same question as SPANISH_AVENGER have ask MotorolaCRO .
Then why are people asking for it if they don’t think it would make a single difference whatsoever?
Will it or won’t it? Why are you all arguing so heavily against a “slight buff” while calling the M1 overpowered as it is?
Because the Abrams using 735 is wrong the two shells should be 774 and 833
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