Can we all mostly agree that the F-15E is unfairly placed at 14.0 in air realistic battles
Like, seriously?!
It’s an F-15C with slightly better acceleration and top speed but with a worse flight model
The only redeeming qualities about it is it’s speed, it’s the top tier F-104 with it’s maneuverability
And this is just the surface
It can’t compete with the Rafale and Eurofighter
And next update it certainly won’t be able to compete with the Su-30 or F-18
I thought it was very fair at 13.7, I truly did, even with the constant uptiers, but now?
It’s facing things 3 times better at what you’re supposed to be doing in the game mode, killing planes.
Any opinions?
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F-15C should be 14.0 and is so far ahead of other 13.7s that’s it’s crazy that it’s still 13.7 and 12.7/13.0s stand no chance against them
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That is insane cope omg
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You think the F-15E is equal to the F-16A OCU or J-11A??
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No. F15e is great
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F15c is closer to 13.7 perfomance than 14.0. Ideally we would want 14.3 max br
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the better aircraft should decompress and go up, and honestly even F-15E could go up, and the better aircraft go up a step above it.
it should NOT go down even if there are better aircraft, as the aircraft below it are in a different world
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America suffers once again, it’s getting funny how they treat US players.
Also F-15E should get back original top speed and thrust, before the “one day release nerf”
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You mean when it was missing it drag
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I agree, the flight performance balances it for it’s missile count, to be honest I feel like top tier needs to be decompressed before anything happens
F-15C is the under-BR’d one.
F-15C/E should be the same BR as Typhoon, Rafale, and F-18C.
@Zannafrancy12
F-15C/E is 14.0 performance, not 13.7.
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i dont agree
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We’re talking about Air RB…
Where 99% of the time you win by everyone else getting killed
And the F-15E is worse at that than the C because of it’s flight model
The only redeeming quality is it’s speed and acceleration
But speed doesn’t really matter in top tier, just look at the AV-8B+
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F-15E’s performance is marginally worse than F-15C in energy retention, outside that it’s still good enough.
But yeah, 2 of the top 3 airframes only go mach ~1.7 for top speed.
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If proper decompression happened the F-14B, mind you not a plane from the 70s
Facing an in service, thrust vectoring, 14 missile carrying sukhoi, in a few weeks
Well the Su-30SM is the worst of the 14.0 airframes. It’ll be carried by hopefully 8 R-77-1s, cause if people bring more the Su-30SM performs as well as an Su-34.
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No they will keep crying about Fakours. Watch it happen.
F-15C/E and F-18C are not equivalents to EF2K and Rafale.
F/A-18E and F-15EX (which replaces both C and E) are. They limit those versions of EF2K and Rafale in order to be on par in armament , and the difference in systems isn’t shown in the game , yet (ECM and other capabilities). If they bring the true arsenal of EF2K and Rafale of those versions , USA will play with 10 years earlier armament not to mention they won’t see a thing coming from jamming.
The last F/A-18C retired from US navy around 2018. Marines still use a few of them that are being upgraded till they get F-35s , but upgraded means different than the F-18 in game anyway…
Rafale F3R is 2018/19. EF2K, if it can carry Brimstone is at least T2/Block 15…2019 let’s say.
So by the time these versions went in, F/A-18Cs went out of USN service. Think of it.
Also, F-16C Blk50… is not 13,7 equivalent. If you compare , the Blk 50/52+ are comparable with Mirage 2000-5F more or less, which is 13,7 in game. F-16C Blk 50 has APG-67(v)7 , Blk 50+ has (v)9 … 30% bigger detection range and that’s the first thing that comes to mind.
So what they do is limit or nerf/buff the armament to be equivalent (more or less) and taking advantage of things that are not modeled in game yet , but eventually they will model them at some point. So let’s say we’re good…for now. But don’t have in mind that all those are equivalent. The moment ECM will come in the game (now you see the AoA button , next might be ECM/jamming button) , instantly EF2K and Rafale F3R are 1 or even 1,3 BR (in game metrics) above those you called equal. About Rafale that i know more of, it has another 3 or 4 versions before 3R, if you are searching for the equivalent of F/A-18C , let’s say F2 standard.
Have you played the gripen? its flight performance has been nerfed so much it barley outperforms an f16 now and its stuck with 4 aim 120. And you think the f15c is an equivalent plane. This is just cope most american planes over perform anyway.
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Dogfight capability does not make aircraft equal or not, it’s overall airframe performance.
Rafale is the slowest aircraft at 14.0 until F-18C.
F-15s make up for their lack of dogfight with their raw speed.
Just as F-18C will be the 3rd best airframe so far despite being the slowest in top speed.
Brimstones are not an air RB thing.
F-16C is the definition of what a 13.7 is, the Mirage 2000-5F is slightly worse than the F-15C we have in-game.
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