Northrop YF-23A Black Widow II - "So Stealthy They Forgot to Choose it"

I got to see Gray Ghost in person, the coolest part was the interior tiles along the engine exterior. Almost like space shuttle heating tiles.

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Been to the US a few times i planned eventually seeing the YF-23’s such a unique design to bad the XF-22 won since Lockheed didn’t have financial problems.

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Real engineering projects are not gamers’ fantasy after all…

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Rather than look for memes on the internet.
I would read up on the program.

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I say it would be either a great event or squadron vehicle +1!

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Chaff and flares were definitely planned, at least for the production F-23, according to one of the unclassified F-23 team design proposals below. See on the left side, in the Group Weight Statement chart:

However, I don’t have answers to questions like how many chaff and flares it could carry or where they would be installed. My assumption: The chaff and flare dispensers might be modeled after the F-22A Raptor’s.

Here are additional diagrams:

Interestingly, this included planned provisions for both the IRST and missile launch detection sensors. More official F-23 drawings exist online, but they’re locked behind paywalls.

Here’s a cutaway diagram:

F-23cutway

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Ah! I always was fan of YF-23 since 2006.

+1

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Luckily then we have a precedent set by the Yak-141 that aircraft planned to receive countermeasures can get them. Good news to hear!

Anyway +1 from me, it’s an iconic prototype aircraft and I hope we see it someday. As for how it should be added, anything (EXCEPT A PREMIUM) should be fine really.

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Seeing how the F-20 ended up as premium I am a bit worried.

+1, but i dont think it should get sidewinders, countermeasures, or radar. afaik only AMRAAM was meant to be fired from weapons bay on the YF-23. APG-77 could have been changed to fit better in ways we cannot really know for sure, and while I’m sure the F-23 wouldve gotten countermeasures, the YF-23 didnt have them.

as we both know, IRST was dropped later in program, so even this drawing may not be accurate to final F-23

That is incorrect It had a trapeze design to launch the Aim-9s as you can see in the cut out above. For testing there was no requirement for firing so Northrop left out fire controls and it only carried a inert AIM-120 for testing. There was a few other designed that would have made it more advance than the F-22 such as a rotatory launcher they were thinking for the production variant but I could only see that launching the cost through the roof. Which is probably what the Air Force saw as well.

Cool unique aircraft in history though.

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This might be a bit of a snafu with getting it into the game, however I do believe it did conduct captive carriage of them.

The next time I make a hajj to the NMUSAF I’ll get lots of pictures and post them here.

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EXCUSE ME? british? are you ok?

Never felt better.

Has anyone managed to obtain this exceptionally valuable book, Northrop YF-23 ATF (Air Force Legends, 220)? It might contain undisclosed information and details that most of us haven’t seen. Unfortunately, I can’t find any purchasable digital copies online. Amazon only lists a used paperback copy priced at $1,366.99 USD!

Northrop YF-23 ATF (Air Force Legends, 220): Metz, Paul: 9780989258371: Amazon.com: Books

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IS-7 or YF-23?

Shiiit… was 49.95$ became 1366.99$

10/10 Typical Gaijin market moment

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Might have to ask Paul Metz himself

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