North American P-82B Twin Mustang - The Merlin-Powered Twin Mustang

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Would you like to see the AAM-A-1 Firebird missile added as a modification for the P-82B?
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North American P-82B Twin Mustang

   Hello everybody. I’d like to suggest the North American P-82B Twin Mustang for inclusion in the US aviation tree in War Thunder. The P-82B was the first production model of the Twin Mustang series, introduced in late 1945, just after the XP-82 prototypes and before the P-82E. Powered by Packard-built Rolls-Royce Merlin engines and armed identically to later F-82E fighters, only 20 examples were completed before the program shifted to the Allison-powered models. There was a secondary reason why this aircraft was suggested: it had been proven that one aircraft was fitted to fire the AAM-A-1 Firebird air-to-air missile, making it a strong counterpart to the Fw 190 F-8 with X-4 rockets.

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Thank you for taking the time to read my suggestion! 😃

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A +1 from me! It would honestly make for a super neat addition, especially with the missile. I’d 100% love to fly this in-game!

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+1 Very cool

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+1 ESPECIALLY for the Firebird missiles!

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+0.5, I would love the P-82B; it is sort of the ultimate evolution of the escort fighter concept; I am vehemently opposed to the firebird missiles; as I was and still am, opposed to the X-4s in props.

Please add/edit a poll to allow us to yea-nay on the firebird missiles.

Yeah, you make a good point. Initially, I was suggesting Firebird missiles separately, but it was denied because P-82B isn’t in the game yet.

I will edit once the cooldown is over for me. I’ve hit the maximum number of daily edits on this forum, so I gotta wait.

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@Nihilist_Saint and everyone else, I’ve added a second poll for the AAM-A-1 Firebird missile as a modification for the P-82B.

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Now that the second poll has been added, I’d like to share my findings on the Firebird missile for the P-82B Mustang:

This AAM-A-1 Firebird was an early American air-to-air missile, developed by the Ryan Aeronautical Company. It was the USAF’s first air-to-air weapon to progress beyond concept and prototype stages into operational testing. The Firebird was a subsonic missile powered by a two-stage propulsion system (a solid-fuel booster followed by sustainer motors) and used a combination of radio command guidance with a radar homing terminal stage.

It was first tested in 1947, but the program was terminated in 1949, as missile development shifted toward supersonic designs. AIM-4 Falcon was the response.

As designed, the Firebird was a cigar-shaped, subsonic missile with mid-mounted, swept “X”-configuration wings for control and fixed swept tailfins for stability. It used a two-stage propulsion system: an initial solid-fuel booster providing 2,800 pounds of thrust to accelerate the missile to Mach 0.85, followed by a liquid-fueled sustainer producing 155 pounds of thrust for cruising flight. After booster separation, the missile continued toward its target, carrying a 90-pound high-explosive warhead with both proximity and backup impact fuzing systems.

Interestingly, the missile’s guidance system combined midcourse radio command control (manual command to line of sight or MCLOS) with a radar-based terminal phase. In its early flight stage, an operator on the launch aircraft guided the missile via radio corrections, and the seeker in the nose was then intended to switch to either semi-active radar homing (SARH) or active radar homing (ARH). Sources conflict as to which type of seeker was ultimately implemented.

The missile was only operationally used on the F-82 Twin Mustang (F-82B, serial number 44-65179) and the DB-26 Invader (A-26C-40-DT, serial number 44-35627, modified as a drone director). There is a photo of the F-82B carrying four Firebirds.

Testing was generally successful. However, the MCLOS came with limitations. It was effective only in daylight and clear weather, and was difficult to operate in practice. There were talks of proposed upgrades that included replacing MCLOS with beam-riding guidance, but these were never realized.

Anyway, that is the end of my yapping. Here are the Firebird’s specifications and a gallery of images.

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Oof. S/ARH second-stage and a proxy fuse? I would imagine it would kind of be like a VT-fuse and just home on the nearest signature before detonating, but that would skyrocket this thing’s BR well into 7.0/7.3…Maybe a baseline P-82B w/o the Firebird could be in the TT at like 5.7/6.0; while F-82B/44-65179 w/ the firebirds could be an event or premium or something at 7.0.