North American Mustang Mk.I: The Forgotten First Production Mustang

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Thanks! making suggestions is a pretty big passion of mine (some may call it an addiction) and this has made my day, thank you very much

I was going to include that but I left it out for two reasons:

  1. I wanted to keep the suggestion from dragging on too far, in my experience nothing pushes me away more than a massive wall of text

  2. I have the writing capability of a dead carrier Pidgeon

for that My source is a book I found in my local library on aircraft from WW2, I’m not entirely sure of its name as I found it whilst I was researching the Tomahawks/Kittyhawks about a month ago and also read through many other books that day, I think it was called “Warbirds” or something but don’t quote me on that.

If it helps I believe it is also backed up by a wikipedia statement (although take of that what you will) saying something similar, sorry if I couldn’t help you with this

yeah… there wasn’t exactly a great success rate with these, especially since the only thing the Mustangs had was speed, which didn’t help if the enemy approached from the front, or from above, but you can’t deny it was at least a distraction and forced axis logistics to keep enemy aircraft in mind most of the time

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Mustang I, Mustang IA and P-51 should most definitely have the same armor, but so far I haven’t found what it really was. During initial test in USA there was just 1/4 inch = 6.35mm seat back plate. Then a manual states firewall armor and bulletproof glass existed, but for seat back there was only provision. No thickness for any of those.

P-36, P-51A and all the following had the same armour, which was described as .30cal proof, so I would suggest it was the same for these ones as well, but no proper source so far.

Edit: I went through a lot of P-51, including few earlier ones which had been harder to find. Some of them have a little bit lacking information, but conclusion is quite obvious: All variants had the same armor, except for addition of small plate under windscreen for D, K & H. No manual describes different thickness for the plates. I already reported the issues.

-coolant header plate in nose 6.35mm (1/4 inch)
-firewall 6.35mm (1/4 inch)
-windscreen 38.1mm (1 1/2 inch)
-tiny plate under windscreen in bubble canopy variants 6.35mm (1/4 inch)
-headrest plate 11.11mm (7/16 inch)
-seat back plate 7.94mm (5/16 inch)

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Np - i saw it from the actual historical relevance as somehow strange that this aircraft was missing.

And flying a Mustang has usually the massive downside of playing with US teams or “Knights of the Holy Order of Grind”, not my preferred option :-)

No - it was really good and regarding this comparison:
Lmao - u made my day :-)

I see wikipedia rather as an opinion than a fact platform, but imho daylight raids of the BC were so rare, that even they would have mentioned it…

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just left a reply on the mkIII suggestion. theres a MKII(51A) for america at 3.0 (it shouldnt be at 3.0 but whatever) i would love to see some more early mustang representation

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+1 Mustangs are nice and more will always be.

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P51B would be peak

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Small correction: it should be 300 RPG for the four 0.50 caliber guns, 814 RPG for the outboard 0.30 calibre guns, and 932 RPG for the inboard 0.30 caliber guns.

This means the Mustang Mk I carries a total of 1,200 rounds for the 0.50 caliber guns and 3,492 rounds for the 0.30 caliber guns.

Also, I couldn’t find any mention of bomb provisions in the Pilot’s Notes manual, just FYI.

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+1
Man, I really love to see that disclaimer as long as some guys are placing -1 allergically in every US-built plane outside of US TT. XD

And also, it would be great if we could see something that worthful to play outside of Hurricane and Spitfire(which are both good turnfighter) in low BR

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love to see the mk1. Especially in 414 RCAF Squadron they took part in Dieppe Raid. Pilot of the Mustang in this artwork was credited with achieving the first kill by a mustang pilot.

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nuts that we dont have any TT mustangs, just a premium allison.
and its a sin we dont have any merlin ones at all

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If only the initial customer actually had some eh?

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Well, Maybe because

1-Copy paste is bad, Britain has enough of its own domestic unique aeroplanes
2-Mustang is an ‘American’ masterpiece which was built by an American company named ‘North American’ with Engines from American companies ‘Alison’ and ‘Packard’.

Maybe that is why. :/
While they are enjoying the USAAF version of the Spitfire.

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We need all british mustangs in the game, +1

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Ironically, there is no evidence that the USAAF had flown a Spitfire LF Mk IXc with a Merlin 66. With official records and the known serial numbers I had researched, they had commonly flown IXs with Merlin 61. Since it’s premium, they will not make historical corrections and prefer it to be in line with the 5.7 IX in the British tree.

But I digress. I am hoping this Mustang will end up in the British tree as TT, and XP-51 (copy-paste Mustang Mk. I with American-made guns) in the US tree as premium.

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I was just about to say that mate.

I’m fine for the USAAF having the mkV and mkIX as they were actually used but the LFmkIXc appears to be a incorrect for American use

It’s flat out a fakery for the USSR to shoehorn a minor nations beat turnfighter into their tree

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Don’t mean to be blunt, but have you read the suggestion? This is a unique model of the mustang made before the American versions… this is as British as the Stryker is American

For the British. Without the British Purchasing Committee asking North Americans to build the P-40, the Mustang likely wouldn’t have existed, at least not in the form it did historically.

Also, there was no “USAAF” version of the Spitfire; all of the Spitfires given to the Americans were off-the-shelf models, being the Mk .V, VIII, IX and some recon variants as well, if I remember correctly.

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Well, mate, I think I wrote the reply ambiguously. :(

1- I read the suggestion, and I support it.
2.- Yeah, if we hadn’t asked North-American, Mustang wouldn’t exist at all.

3- What I am pointing to with that part was
US Mains enjoys Spitfire, which we gave to them (Premium Spitfire LF Mk.IX, Fine superprops.)
But we cannot even enjoy what we bought or borrow from them.
P-400, P-51, and so on…
:|

And it is frustrating.
I waits British Mustang for years…
but these damn ‘tech-tree uniqueness’…

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+1 for a unique variant

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My apologies, I think I got the wrong idea from your reply

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No prob, it is my fault which wrote reply ambiguously. ;)

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