Kind of true but there is enough out there if Gaijin would want to add it.
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The Armata had good concepts the Chinese took the best of what they saw internationally and used it to spice up domestic development.
Everyone is going to unmanned turret since the late cold war due to the end of the cold war people slowed the development of new tanks. Due to end of unipolarity era tank development is back on full steam so old ideas developing at a slower rate are finished and modified with new ideas like the VR helmet that could not of existed in the 90s or early 2000s for use on tanks.
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Yeah but the Armata did not create those concepts nor was it even the first one to implement those and China has had been developing on this since before the Armata released too
China been basically just 1:1 copying Western Designs since the very second they were able to. All of their own modern EQ from Jets to Tanks to just basic Infantry EQ and structuring to how they even operate together etc is from Western design (Keep in mind i said modern; im aware they still have ton of Russian Stuff around too)
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Would not say 1:1 copy China wants to understand how the system fully works if there going to make a derivative. Like all nations if you have an example of captured tech that works you use it but you use it to learn not to copy unless it’s a emergency. 1980s 1990s and 2000s wars shocked China into advancing there military tech base at speed so making derivative of Western / Russian stuff made 100% as what ever Iraq did clearly failed.
Did China use the 1980s honey moon to get tech? Yes. Do they get bits and bobs from around the world? Yes. But these are domestic it’s smart for them to follow the trend setters instead of trying to blitz them and failing. China is now setting up there own trends. ZTZ-100 Is following international trends but is no copy of Russian or Western designs they made sure there homework is right.
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may its EODAS gives it a thermal imaging of 3rd person view?
It looks like it has APS (tiny racket launchers) and above optics is something which looks like drone jammer or drone fryer or both. Does this optics are just optics or laser cannon also. Behind turret is something weird, maybe back of hull has small magazine for missles or drones?
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that is a good question and unique quirk
I know it has GL6 APS; just asking where the ATGMs are. Don’t see any confirmed evidence for an VLS ATGM Launcher anywhere; so far is just speculation and not confirmed.
I guess the ‘block’ right behind the Turret next to the Drone is the supposed VLS
Box on turret looks more like power unit for turret
Back has vertical tube shaped thing
Next to doors is enlarged piece of hull just behind turret
Seperate Suggestion for ZBD-100;
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Already happening look at the winrates
China has a lot to bring to the game just wait for Chinese infantry top tier.
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i love when people claim the “china copies everything” argument because it proves a lack of engineering knowledge within the person.
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China looks observes learns and checks there homework. China though in 90s / 2000 did buy weapons from Israel & Swiss with a few others. This was because China was doing a blitz in upgrading her Army, Air Force, & Navy. The Gulf war and later Iraq war scared China as they expected Iraq to do better while also the Iraq army set up being similar to Chinas. China was very interested in GBU bombs and got a few from Israel plus lots of samples and stuff. These would become the base for Chinas munitions which where improvements off of there imports. USA was not happy with Israel selling these munitions to China in I think 2003 and it ended. Swiss is Swiss (mainly guns, artillery tech, mediator for foreign weapon development).
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you’ll never fathom what america and plenty other countries did to get to where they’re at now. but still, the argument that “china copies everything” is just a blatant disregard for their own accomplishments. they’re really good at making their own stuff.
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+1 China needs more unique tanks to grow larger
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Agree
China learns and improves. Never stated they only copy. The history of China’s heavy industry is a great story. 1990s to 2010 is the most complex in my books. I will say China is very conservative in there R&D they will pick something tried and tested then trying to jump way ahead. This likely came from observation of the USSR which tried to trend set and brake records to have a lot of cooked projects. So did the USA to an extent. China likes to just make sure it works in my opinion. China in my opinion will vacuum up what the world offers like any good development strategy.
When China was developing the Tiangong space station they brought on former Mir engineers from Russia (Mir was a disaster of a station but you got to start somewhere) These engineers would not build Tiangong but played a role in providing experience. Listening to engineers of what they wish they did or did not is invaluable. A more recent example is China contacting according to Russia engineers who worked on the Caspian Sea Monster for what is shaping up to be Chinas South China Sea Monster program. China seems somewhat interested in having there own ground effect vehicle likely as some sort of Cargo or even oversized high speed stealthy missile boat thing. But they want knowledge and experience from the engineers behind the Caspian Sea Monster. It will have all of the wishes and could have beans of the Lun-class ekranoplan which will make it a formidable weapon if that is happening but it wont be a copy.
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I saw that people think its the new gen 4/5th super tank wonder what’s the plan with that thing. Wonder what type of engine it will use as there is talk of Fuel cell tech in China for heavy machinery also same talk from Korea. Then again China is a mass army while South Korea gets to be a bit more experimental.
Then again
Make this puppy bigger a ceramic turbine, wheel feet, a 40mm revolver cannon, some armor with some ATGMS and we cook.
Ye but must be an entirely new MBT due to it having 7 Roadwheels whereas all other Chinese Tanks including the new ZTZ-100 use 6 - the Cannon also looks like a new one