With the introduction of the T77E1 featuring a closed top and two extra 50. cals over the M16, I’m not sure US mains would be up for another M2HB quadmount; the aforementioned M16 MGMC already does its job well enough even without an armored turret.
I didn’t know about the M47 based SPGs, shame they were never constructed.
I also recall PikPikker’s old Spanish tree suggestion including some early Spanish artillery vehicles utilizing German howitzers and 88mm guns, something I haven’t heard anything else about since.
“Obus de 105/28”, with the 105mm leFH 18 howitzer
“Obus de 88/56”, with the 88mm KwK 36 cannon
“Obus de 122/46”, with the 122mm A-19 field gun. They were captured guns supplied by Germany in 1943, so maybe these shipments included German-made 122mm ammunition.
No sources are provided, but if you click on the images they take you to info pages that mention how prototypes were created for each.
Everyone else : YAY new 2015 or new APFSDS , super good thermals , impenetrable UFP( other than the french and italy ) , 5.0 reload like the abrams ( Ariete , Merkava ) ,20 km atgms ( Kh29Ls ) , gets FnF ATGMS ( Spikes or Pars LR )
US : m829a2 being before the 2000s but now only to m1a1 HC and m1a2 onwards , Ricochets off the ufp all the time But doenst apfsds doesnt lose any penetrating power resulting in penetration of the bottom turret armor or breach , inaccurate armor values of the turret checks and braech past M1A1 Aim to M1A2 Sepv2 as of currently , still no gen 3 thermals for no reason other than bias , Still no hellfire 114L’s or 114N’s or 114R’s to apaches or ah1z or even the spike-Nlos or Spike Ers OR even just getting direct fire mode for 114B/Ks , no increased base countermeasure count for apache, Apache heat signiture reducing system not in game ( ah64ds ) ,
Dont you just love this game
( also i am bias cause i like playing US )
I mean, if they were modeled correct most nato countries would ufp most russian tanks… Instead of using the br system (and therefore having them at a lower br) they instead make sure all nations have a “top tier” even if they really shouldnt. AKA the ariete being an 11.0 at best and most challenger variants being 11.0 worthy if not for the round.