We’ll have to see when they get delivered with what happens
TC200 would be cool Iirc swiss only tried the 20mm model, Finland used the 25mm and then mounted a 30mm and a 35 all of which were uniquely made by patria. called TC500. They would be pretty neat to see.
If your talking about this vehicle about it’s a 30mm I believe since that’s what the kuka e4a1 turret came with the swiss had a earlier variant of this with 20mm what you could be thinking off
Maybe that’s it, I mainly know about the Finnish trials since they were the ones who did the most testing with it iirc as it was one of the vehicles competing in the CV90 trials of which the 9030 won
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Tbh I only know if the swiss tests with the system I genuinely can’t find anything when it comes to the Finnish tests or any photos of them but anyway here’s a photo mentioning the Trojan and it’s 30mm
Also God knows how the cv9030 won especially since they are similar guns (used in the test) with more ifv capabilities and was more mobile (talking about the Trojan here)
Info with Finnish equipment is basically a nail pulling experience, it’s almost all kept in libraries with very little online.
Guns don’t always make or break if the chassis isn’t good.
You’d have to probably check what the criteria were for picking a winner.
no guns
no flares
only 2 missiles?
Great!
They are nearly identical (but don’t include MUSS in the description, only the drone radar):
Identieke voertuigen
De samenwerking met Duitsland is enorm belangrijk, benadrukt Patrique. “We kunnen deze grotere behoefte aan vuursteun samen aanvliegen, zowel in de operatie als in de aanschaf.” Alleen de radio’s in de Jakhals zijn Nederlands, deze worden later ingebouwd. Voor de rest zijn de voertuigen identiek. Dit levert veel voordelen op, zowel qua onderhoud, reserveonderdelen als ontwikkeling. “We delen nu de ontwikkelkosten. Dat is een groot commercieel voordeel. Dat is niet de hoofdreden, maar een mooie bijvangst.”
In theory it was better for mobility and troop transport my personal guess would have to be cost cv9030 was probably cheaper
Unfortunately maybe some will be sent to Internet archives eventually
Yeah it’s like info on the Sturmi with side armor or the ISU-152V with the 20mm or the T34-75, it’s all very obscure with little info but they do pop up here and there
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Wasn’t it a Finnish towing/recovery vehicle with just the main gun removed ?
Plans have it listed as quite the wack vehicle
This was a plan for the design, again as far as what’s currently known it was planned and maybe tested but we have no idea as clearly this plan never came to be as it likely would’ve taken too much time to convert.
Again as for the gun it was planned to be removed for modification with the 20mm, ammo wasn’t very plentiful iirc so no use for the main gun especially since it was supposed to be modified as a troop support vehicle essentially. Theres a few mentions of the Lahti rifle but realistically we don’t know if it was actually mounted or where, we have idea but nothing concrete.
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One thing that would be cool to see would the Dutch Centurions (they had a really cool modernized version in the 80s) to reinforce 8.0 France. Leo 1BE and 1-V would also be a nice addition. Would also love to see Danish Centurions in the Swedish TT, though their 8.0 is already goated.
Our Centurions would be more akin to 9.3 since we have thermals on them
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Afghani M1117 Guardian with a 73 mm SPG-9
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