It should be, well not the version i showed, the model in the trailer is a joint project with the US and Norway. Kongsberg developed the majority of the system so its surprising they are only giving it to the US. I guess the better version can come at a later date, honestly im just happy to see it.
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The missile (the Aster 15 obviously) would not be too strong compared to the SLM. However, the radar is a little powerful, but just a little
Aster 15 in ground ? are you sure, and as far i get when i googled this image it was an aster 30.
The DGA has tested it several times but in theory they would just like to use the Aster 30 because the missile is just better.
De l’Aster 15 au B1NT, l’épopée du meilleur missile antiaérien du moment
Afterwards, I don’t have many sources that talk about it. But it seems possible.
15 and 30 are very similar, but can be distinguished by booster length
Although you’re right, i’m not sure SAMP/T carries Aster 15, i thought it was only for ships
Fair enough if it’s carried
Although i’m going to call BS on the 30km range. On a 310kg missile and considering the Aster 15 NG is claimed to be 60km, i’m going to guess it’s an other instance of MBDA understating the real range
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Well i guess if you have source about it it would be great then, because when i searched on internet i couldn’t find an aster 15 being used by a samp/t it was always aster 15 for sea and only aster 30 used by it.
I have to admit that I’m starting to have doubts. I have an article that talks about it, but not much more. I’m going to continue to find out a little more to be sure.
especially considering the rather poor missile count on MICA VL (4 per launcher)
It will eventually be upgraded to 8 from what i understood but yeah…
on MICA VL ?
i wasn’t aware of that, would you happen to have some kind of source, couldn’t find info on it last i checked
@_OceanFish @UNN_Daedalos Well, it seems that I’m talking nonsense and that my source was wrong, only the Aster 30 is used by ground-to-air systems.
Nah, i remember it because a comment was pointing that 4 missile was not the best and another answering that the mica vl was received faster or something and that is was gonna be upgraded for the numbers of missiles xd.
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yeah sadly :/
Well otherwise we can go directly to the Aster 30 in game but I’m not sure everyone agrees
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Germany got Iris t slm so it should be fine, we will just add some competition to it, just need to see which source claim the less range and with the added gaijin nerf it should be the same range ~ /s
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no, aster 15 is much better with that huge booster.
SLM’s 40km is no match to Aster, it’s still a AIM-120 size missile, well, most of our new missile is AIM-120 size, they should have similar effective range performance.
I guess it will be MICA VL for FR
I’m a bit surprised Aster-30 only has a 20km ceiling. How does a missile with 3x the range of SLM have the same ceiling? Does the Aster have a remarkably poor altitude performance or the SLM an extraordinarily good one?
ceiling is a bit random sometime it feels like
For example where do you measure it, straight above your launcher, or at max range ?
from the few videos and public data :
Aster 30 accelerates for 3.5s to mach 4.5 (1400m/s), then jettisons the booster. At this time it travelled around 2.4km (3.5s at an average speed of 700m/s)
Then the terminal dart takes over, and its sustainer start burning, no idea for how long though. From what i could see in promotional material, it’s at least around 4s. Assuming it maintains the mach 4.5 speed, it means the missile travelled 8km and is Mach 4.5 by the time all engine burn off
The missile should therefore reach 20km high no problem, so it may be a matter of the lateral thrust + aerodynamic surfaces not working well together above this altitude
The newer variant, B1NT (25km alt, 150km range) may be able to reach a higher altitude altitude because it has a new seeker, that sees much further, so maybe it can anticipate its target movement better and therefore the lateral thrust + aerodynamic surfaces control becomes less of a problem up high ? idk. Should in theory be able to counter some hypersonic targets though
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