Next Major Update - Rumor Roundup & Discussion

I know this is a rather pessimistic view, but unfortunately, it seems very likely. I want to clarify that I’m not blaming the sub-trees for this, but rather Gaijin for how they add vehicles. (Personally, I’m happy that the Czech L-39ZA, for instance, was freed from the USSR—where it never should have ended up in the first place, given the events of '68—though that’s beside the point. The Russians should just get that lousy L-39 variant they actually used.)

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Man I am divided, part of me really wants the F‑15EX added to the game, but the other part wants to see what kind of schizoposting you’ll come up with if it doesn’t come this update .

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F-1 really is disappointing. It could very easily be a very useful aircraft to use against ships now that that is more relevant in the Nuclear escalation mode, but is still missing the ASM-1 missile while GCS-1 bombs aren’t even in the game at all.


I think it still does make a lot of sense to add personally, though this is maybe more just because I want to see it added personally.

I don’t think there is any other aircraft that can fill this unique light attack role. The only one that might be close is the Indonesian CS-102 (Czech built MiG-15UTI), which I think is less significant/popular than the T-1. It has very limited armament with only two 100kg bombs and a single 12.7mm machine gun, so it lacks the versatility the T-1 would have with heavier bombs, rockets, gun pods or missiles.

Maybe the Thai A-37B or Malaysian CL-41G, but I think those are a different type of aircraft compared to what the T-1 would be. Compared to them the T-1 is a more lightly armed but faster strike aircraft that can keep up with dedicated fighters afterwards (in all but armament, because with a strike loadout that’s just one MG) if needed.

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Oh, but friday is the perfect slot to build up hype and let it simmer until the next tuesday at the earliest. To let us cook, anxious for more.

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There are also supposedly Indonesian L-29s and Malaysian Aermacchi MB-339AMs.

I really want to see the Fuji T-1 added, even if it turns out to be a terrible aircraft. However, it compares very poorly against other light attack or trainer-attack aircraft from the sub-trees. I should also point out that there might simply be no physical space left for it. Sub-trees already occupy 2.5 out of the 5 lines in the Japanese tech tree, and the attack aircraft line is currently empty. That is likely where Indonesian aircraft will end up (I don’t see much point in hoping for new Japanese aircraft to be added to that specific line). If Gaijin starts adding sub-tree aircraft that require little development effort or can be reused across multiple trees (such as the L-29, MB-339AM, A-37B, or CL-41G), we might suddenly find there is no room left for the T-1. Of course, it could be placed in Rank IV, but I don’t think there are any tech-tree jets there in the entire game. Gaijin claims they don’t replace native vehicles with sub-tree ones, but just look at Great Britain. Where are its WWII-era armored cars? They are nowhere to be seen, even though the country had over ten different models.

It is safe to say that sub-trees have effectively blocked the addition of native Japanese vehicles. For instance, has the Malaysian line partially blocked the possibility of adding JMSDF patrol aircraft (such as the Kawasaki P2V-7, P-2J, P-3C, or P-1)? Due to the Gaijin engine—or some other limitation preventing a vehicle line from exceeding five entries—every vehicle added from a sub-tree physically blocks another vehicle from being included.

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Yeah, this is a big issue in general.The way it’s currently set up gives each nation one line to work with, with the exception of Japan and Thailand that have to share the second line. This simply isn’t enough space for any nation to be properly represented.

There really needs to be a big rework, because if there isn’t enough space for the vehicles to be added to a tree that is a fundamental issue with the way techtrees are set up.

From a certain point of view they are right, they don’t directly replace anything.
But techtrees have limited space, and every addition takes up space that other additions could’ve taken. This is the case for every addition, but far more noticeable for subtrees because the competition for space is split across multiple factions.
Subtrees also bring more vehicles to add in the first place, without adding more space, which does mean that indirectly every addition takes the space of another potential addition by default.

And they can also add more of a complication with dedicated lines. For example a Malayisan line might not take up all the space, but it still effectively blocks Japanese, Thai or Indonesian additions because those would disrupt the theme of the line. This is the same way that a bomber line doesn’t have space for fighters for example, but again more noticeable here.

And I think Gaijin know this is an issue, for example Britain got a makeshift fix with the South African geound line being split across the techtree, then allowing for British light vehicles to be added that had no space for years before that.
Maybe this is an early sign they are looking into real solutions behind the scenes.

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What weapons does it carry btw? Isn’t it just 7.62 gunpods and 2*100 kg bombs?

Technically, they can carry up to eight air-to-ground missiles. But from Gaijin’s perspective, there is a major plus: the L-29 could go to China, the USSR, Japan, Germany, Italy ( Hungary and Bulgaria), and—hypothetically—the USA.

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Depends on, I would get T-1A at 8.0 and other at 8.3 (can be 8.3 and 8.7 too)

Equip with AIM-9B and AIM-9E and let them act as a missile rat

Missiles? Do you mean S-5 rockets?
PS God pls no L-29 spam

I don’t know exactly which air-to-ground rockets, but probably S-5s or S-8s.

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I doubt it would ever get added since Gaijin already refuses to add aircraft like the L-39ZO as it doesn’t carry it’s own armament (own cannon)

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I can see why, though even L-39ZO is way more capable in terms of loadouts compared to L-29.

Not much hope for a CM disclosure on a Wednesday, but at least I hope for pages of history October.

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My hope is for tomorrow

Yep, with hopefully also a first blog on Friday to close the week.

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Good Morning @Smin1080p_WT, anything worth to cope for today?

Could be today or tomorrow

Maybe devblog today and cm tomorrow

F-15EX devblog today, i know it

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