Next Major Update - Rumor Roundup & Discussion (Part 1)

I’m so glad you asked:

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And it won’t be. Like that’s what everyone is trying to tell you.

Yeah no, we were talking about better missiles for the F-15EX not a foreign jet, don’t try to switch up now

With its current ingame implementation, no. Documents were already posted indicating the improved EA and lethality of the C-7, though - so it should. I don’t really care for Gaijin’s fantasy land.

You asked about NG AAMs and I stated the improved US AAMs.

People want EX not because “new totally OP plane that will fix everything” but because we just want F-15E with actually good radar for GRB/NE.

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We’re on forums of a game called Warthunder, and we’re discussing how weapons might be implemented in-game, might be important to preface this.

The C variants of the AMRAAM will always be worse then the D´s no matter what lol

also according to someone the C-7 should ingame have a +10 inch motor

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ironically this is also true.

USA first actual 14.7? ✅
AESA? ✅
Aura farmer? ✅

a close up of a man 's face with a mustache laughing with his eyes closed .

  1. Not incorrect. The EX does not carry 16 AAMs operationally.
  2. That’s your opinion.
  3. That’s your opinion.
  4. A single typo due to a poor memory.
  5. Not incorrect.
  6. Not incorrect.

So not only did I only misspeak once, YOU decided to make up an arbitrary number out of thin air due to I can only assume you not liking my opinion. If you’re going to make personal attacks, you should be accurate in doing so rather than plucking whatever number you like out of thin air.

Except it won’t be that, though - this is what I’ve been saying. It does not currently field CFTs operationally (though they are planned, don’t know Gaijin’s criteria for that) so its AG ordnance count is more limited at current.

F-15EX in 5 years though, fuck yeah that’ll be great for NE/GRB with that quantity of JDAMs.

For those who are actually curious as to what each variant changes, we know a surprising amount about them thanks to multiple documents and declassified weapons files and here’s the summary:

Spoiler

AIM-120A (Lots 1-5) Baseline missile

AIM-120B (Lots 6-7) (APREP) Introduces electrically erasable programmable read only memory (EEPROM) for software updates via field level reprogramming

AIM-120C3 (Lots 8-10) (P³I Phase 1) Introduces clipped wing and fin design for compatibility with F 22A internal carriage

AIM-120C4 (Lot 11) (P³I Phase 2) Introduces new improved blast fragmentation warhead (WDU-41/B), further software upgrades

AIM-120C5 (Lot 12) (P³I Phase 2) Introduces new +5 rocket motor (WPU-16/B) and shortened control actuation Section (SCAS)

AIM-120C6 (Lots 13-15) (P³I Phase 2) Introduces new quadrant target detection device (QTDD) for improved fusing

AIM-120C7 (Lots 16-21) (P³I Phase 3) Introduces improved guidance section hardware for improved electronic protection (EP)

AIM-120D (P³I Phase 4) Introduces GNSS, two-way datalink, updated guidance software and improved network compatibility

AIM-120D (P³I Phase 4) (SIP-1) Introduces improved software

AIM-120D (P³I Phase 4) (SIP-2) Introduces improved software

AIM-120D (P³I Phase 4) (SIP-3) Introduces improved software

AIM-120C8 (F3R) Introduces modernized guidance section hardware, based on the AIM-120C7

AIM-120D3 (F3R) (SIP-3F) Introduces modernized guidance section hardware, improved software and a slightly longer new rocket motor

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I’m not claiming otherwise? The D variant is underperforming and is at about what the C-7’s performance should be?

We’re talking about the missiles, not how Gaijin implement them. If we were talking about how Gaijin would implement them, the D-3 would be a D reskin with +30 seconds of guidance time lmao

The context was F-15EX and what missiles it would/could get in Warthunder. So you’re wrong on that tbh.

US already has that with the GE with a far cooler cockpit

And a TLDR for those who don’t want to read:

AIM-120A, AIM-120B: Identical for WT

AIM-120C3, AIM-120C4: Identical for WT except for different warhead

AIM-120C5, AIM-120C6: Identical for WT since we do not exactly model proxy fuse reliability

AIM-120C7: Identical for WT for now, maybe it could get a seeker that is more resilient against jamming when we get electronic warfare in-game, 120D would have a better seeker regardless

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Eurofighter does not carry 8 AMRAAM operationally, but it can
Su-27SM, Su-30SM/SM2 doesn’t carry 10-12 R-77 operationally, but (apparently) it can

See where I’m going?

Convenient

I did say you were getting near 10, and I was right, keep going though.

How? Bring sources, not ‘memory’.

We were, then you diverted back and forth

would/could/should when it comes to Gaijin is like russian roulette