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having a plane at 13.0 with which super sonic, incredibly agile, with an AESA radar and AIM-7Ms is actually insane, I think im just avoiding 12.0-13.0 till they realise the F2A ADTW should not be at 13.0

cant wait for the typhoon at 12.7 with only AIM-9Ms /s

F2A ADTW was always 13.0, no?

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In the December update, we’ll all be able to fly the Indonesian Rafale, right?

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no idea still shouldnt be 13.0 with an AESA

Its AESA is pretty meh iirc. Been a minute since I used it, though

Hopefully the full Indonesian roster but that’s just a hope

to be fair… no hmd and youre stuck in tws for general scanning. Not to mention there are a plethora of aim120 carriers at that 13.0 too.

Correct

A meh AESA is still miles better than even the best m-scan radar

any AESA is a massive advantage over Mechanical radars, especially when they have one of the best SARHs makes playing any 12.0 feel pointless

Lower BR than the Tornado F3 Late to be fair

I really want nation folders to become a thing, as I think they would solve several issues at once: space limitations, progression restrictions, and opposition to subtrees receiving vehicles their nations heavily used or helped develop, like the PRTL.

They would also allow subtrees to receive vehicles that may not be considered unique but are historically important to their nations, like the Cheetah and Leopard 1A5BE (which I personally do consider unique, despite their relation to German designs). This could also reduce the usual outrage over vehicles not being from the host nation or having to pass arbitrary requirements and purity tests to justify their inclusion, like the idea that the 1a5be needs to be the one-off mexas varaint as otherwise it wouldn’t be unique enough.

I also think this could help prevent Gaijin from neglecting host nations, since adding vehicles to subnations wouldn’t directly affect the main tree’s progression.

Ultimately, I want subtrees to properly represent their respective nations rather than it being a very small pool of vehicles that only fill specific gaps in the host tree, while the rest of their equipment is ignored for not meeting arbitrary uniqueness requirements. As i see that akin to punishing subtrees for not being explicitly made to be a gap filler for the host tree.

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Not anymore. The only one left is the harrier

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oh yeah mb u right. Av8b+ still my GOAT tho

And whatever the Italian version of the Yak-130 is, right? Or is that higher?

Though regardless, yeah if it’s just subsonics left then maybe it should go up to 13.3.

yeah the little trainer jet. But im pretty sure that has derbies, not amraams. The su-39 is 12.7 with r77s right now tho

Derby is better than A-120A/B imo, but fair

Not anymore. Since the derby hasn’t gotten the missile buff yet, the amraam is faster, more agile, and longer range. Though the derby should be getting its buff soon

Doesn’t the Derby pull something like 40-50g? Didn’t think the 120A/B buff did that much

The amraam now performs about how the r77 did in terms of pull before the missile buff. The r77 now performs about how the old mica did, and the mica is now just on a whole other level. If a mica carrier can get a radar lock on you while in a df, you are just dead. Its insane now

Fair enough. I was a gremlin with the R-Darters in the JAS39C and got a ton of 180 degree missile kills, but suppose that’s about par for the course now