mangers like OXY cant say things like “yea bro totally expect 5th gen in December” BVVD didn’t give us an exact date they say these things because its a dev team and things never go as planned they do have a plan but it could get delayed like 5th gen could get pushed back but is still likely planned for next December but may not be ready
EW would make more sense to me while adding more 4.5’s
if we look at what they both said its making much more sense OXY said “do not expect” and BVVD said “no sooner than second half of this year” so basically not even dev at the time of them saying that are 100% sure if 5th gen could be ready in time so they don’t want to false advertise just keeping expectations low so when they do likely fumble it and push it back nobody can get mad
SO, apparently subs are for the big four nations initially. Obviously that means type VII and gato class initially, but what other subs do we reckon are coming?
“No sooner than second half of this year” doesn’t mean 5th gens will come this year. If I told you I will return your money no sooner than second half of this year, and I don’t give it back to you for 5 years, I am still telling the truth. Oxy has denied the F-22 twice. Once in early Jan/Feb of this year, and once again in the last dev-stream. That’s twice the F-22 has been denied.
Technically only one remains
Saved the best for last 😭🥹

F-22 exist but isn’t the only 5th gen its the most iconic but not the only which means everyone might get generic early block 5th gens and j20s not the insane stuff because thats not a way to start a new generation of things also they say such a wide timeline to avoid conflict with community just to avoid false ads
Guys, I have a question-is normal that after the update default skins on vehicles are not in high quality?
It’s plainly obvious. The F-22 will not be the first 5th gen added. December updates have never left the other minor nations without something to play with.
December 2025: JAS39E, F/A-18E, EF2K AESA, Rafale M, Malaysia vehicles
December 2024: EF2K, Su-33, Rafale C, Thai subtree
December 2023: F-15, JAS-39A, J-11
December 2022: F-16, Tornado, MiG-29
Why would Gaijin break that streak by then just telling the minor nations to go and do one off the heels of the biggest media release in history? It makes no sense.
i think we will see the f-35, su-57 and j-20
tejas?
yes always something juicy 4.5 gen tbh isn’t that juicy that’s just a regular update
do you believe the GB tree needs a 3rd 4th 4.5 gen?
We can have an F-35 without a gun as our only F-35 instead? 😊
Most minor nations*
A bunch of minor nations got screwed in each of those updates.
yup its very unique maybe close to the flight of a JAS39 but its unique more unique than su35 even
also what am I talking about we still need KF21
Sure, but hugely different to all minor nations regardless.
fair
Australia’s F-35A as well as our F-35A (nuke carrier primarily, but can be the same C/P)
surely next update we will get missing integrated ESM for NATO vehicles and IRST for the EX