To say that the f15 ge is hilariously under br’d is crazy. First of all, in a straight up fight, the f15 ge loses every single time to these planes, literally every time. Second of all, why should it be 14.7 when the eurofighter does everything exceptionally better than what the f15 ge is capable of doing all around? just because it can “compete” with these planes in air rb does not mean it should be 14.7, especially when there is very obvious disadvantages compared to these other planes. And I’m not sure why you make the argument that being able to fire from the notch is only advantageous if the enemy makes a mistake, like obviously, but its quite a huge advantage when you are on the defensive, and if your flying the f15 you should just play defensive until they fire all of their missiles at you? does that sound competitive to you? you could do that in literally any plane. But the difference is, is that the GE has absolutely no way of getting off the defensive in this scenario or even protecting itself unlike every other top tier. And waiting until they fire all of their missiles at you isn’t practical either considering by the time they fire their last missile at you, they will be merging, and thats also a death sentence considering the f15 is a boat.
Now yea, it wont take much upgrades for it to be 14.7, for example the engines, but better engines would entirely reshape the play style with this plane which would help it compete way better. but even then, it would still be a death sentence to missile joust in close range with any other 14.7.
yes because it is the only one i play, and is the jet i learned top tier in, but your point is illogical considering k/d’s in 14.7 vehicles are exceptionally better than what i have or any that i have seen with the f15ge. I have looked into this myself, many good players that carry a 5kd in these 14.7 planes, cant even break a 4kd in the GE. That says enough in my opinion lol
Why not? It is by every metric a 14.7 aircraft. Why’s the J-15T at 14.7, with lesser missiles and arguably worse flight performance? The only things it shares between it and the F-15C GE is having ARH+GNSS missiles, of which the F-15 has more.
Also, BR’s aren’t set purely on 1v1 stats alone. If that were the case, the Rafale would be the only jet at 15.0 right now as nothing would beat it.
“Because it can compete” literally explains 90% of aircraft BR placements…
Very much competitive. If you can survive the initial volley of missiles + mid game, you’re very likely to last to the end of the game and rack up at least 3 kills
No, you cannot do that in any plane. You couldn’t do this in the 14.7 J-15T, or Eurofighter, or Su-30SM2 for any number of reasons, most of which due to your low CM count. Playing to your aircraft’s strength (in this case… literally just surviving) and not doing what everyone else is (flying high and fast) will always yield better results
Not hard to turn in, fire, notch again
Of course it is. Bait them into firing, refer to #1
If you’re letting them get that close you’ve already lost. You know the F-15 is a boat so why allow a merge?
by this logic, should the su30-sm2 get put down to 14.3 due to its poor global kd compared to the others? where it sits right above the rest of the 14.3’s? obviously not, so maybe the average k/d isnt reliable in this argument considering that you and me both know there is people who carry a 7kd in the sm2. Let me know if you ever see anyone carry a 7kd in the f15GE
Nope, because major nation players are generally worse than minor nation players. This is generally taken into account when people discuss this stuff.
Now the F-15C GE, which is played by major nation players, can statistically keep up with the likes of the EFT and Rafale flown by minor nation players. That just shows how absolutely stupid the F-15C GE is at 14.3.
you make good points, and i wouldn’t mind to see f15ge at 14.7, but only if the other 14.7’s are considered to be moved to 15.0. I mean there is an obvious disadvantage with the f15ge compared to these other planes, right? engines are weak, cant fire in a notch, doesnt have good close range missiles at all, has no maw, and least of all it has awful flight performance. How would it be fair to have it at the same br of other aircraft that share pretty much none of these struggles? Am i wrong?
Seriously though, we’re long overdue one or a few, at least. I’d imagine a rework of the maps we have now, i.e, making them bigger (Tropical Coast-sized, basically).
Do you happen to know if these changes will be more relevant/significant and comprehensive, such as raising the max Ground BRs, decompressing highly compressed BR ranges, etc? Or will it only be a few changes here and there like the last few times?
