Thats correct yes.
Main issue isn’t the radar itself, its the double standards.
German non AESA versions also tested IRST but Gaiji refused to implement it under lame excuses but somehow a radar that hasn’t been even finalized and still considered as prototype was integrated to British and Italian Typhoons.
Now as for the radar I’m completely okay since I also have British versions but what pisses me off is that their double standarts.
yes and thats why people are complaining
this is a Fictional Future Possible version where all Nations Profited off of German integration efforts because in theory every Jet could do that for Spice but in the same sentence once it starts to actually matter for AIR RB when we talk about the Radar the Coin is Flipped and all of a Sudden the Radar is withheld from the Fictional version germany gets because the Real version germany gets which is Distinctly diffrent from this AESA one in game could get a diffrent radar
Its already moving to production:
“And now, finally, a £453.5 million ($627.53 million/€523.57 million) has been awarded to BAE Systems to start production of the service-standard ECRS Mk 2 radar.”
Tbf, while it is more than just a prototype, it’s still a bit off to say it’s « moving to production », since said production is to deliver the first radar in around 2028, if nothing goes wrong. It’s just that the budget has been allocated
All in game nations also profit off of Brimstone integration too. Which was lead by the British. This works in all directions.
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Changes could still occur for sure. Nothing is ever “final” even when in production. Changes are still made from that point too. But the “prototype” radars are simply being updated to production standard anyway.
Doesnt mean it will be the same radar nor it will be delivered to the RAF on next day.
Production may take more time or BAE can change certain aspects on radar before finalizing it, as i’ve said before my issue isnt the radar but the policy you guys running.
Modifications of the two test radars to production standards for a complete set of 40. It is finalized.
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The same is also true of the ECRS Mk I. Changes can occur in any stage, even after production. Nothing is ever “final” in that respect.
and this is why germany chose the MK1 for the time, as we plan to have it show up in service by this year, not by 2028
Still ignoring the main aspect of this conversation, meh i think thats enough for me.
Why are we back with german mains whining for 10° and asking for amk, they should already be happy that they are getting irst, my god…
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Honestly wouldn’t mind a second AESA Typhoon so long as it’s the P4E kit with the all digital cockpit. But for the the love of god it would be great for Gaijin to folder it on release instead of a few months later.
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Nothing is being ignored.
Germany selected the ECRS Mk 1 along with Spain.
Britain opted to go with the ECRS Mk 2 along with Italy.
These are the choices that each individual nation has decided.
AMK has not been locked in to only be available to Germany. None of the other consortium members have selected an alternative or ruled it out.
By your own logic, the AMK has also not been delivered yet and could have “changes”. So its not really clear what line you wish to go down here.
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Exactly, you still dont see the main aspect on our conversation.
Its not about ECRS MK2 nor AMK kit, its about how Gaijin applies their own policy.
Anyway thanks for the conversation, cheers.
Only Italy profited off brimstone integration
I have seen and answered all of your points. I understand you may not agree with the answers, which is more than fair for you to have your own opinion. But please don’t claim I didn’t see / answer your points.
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Sure why not, lets say you did see every aspect and tried to answer as good as possible but one thing for sure some of the methods Gaijin is applying on certain aspects are highly questionable.
Anyway thanks for your time and for this conversation.
the point is germany suffer, right?