Good that you agree thats double standard
Double standard no
Don’t put words in my mouth
It’s not like soviets need more than 3BM46 or even mango to get most of the sweet hits on leopard’s mantlets (its hardest adversary) anyway. Add the fact soviets can pen like butter most NATO hulls even at 12.7 with a 10.ish round, that also says a lot.
And it’s not like you get consistent one hits or even damage at all by firing on the T-80BVM/T-90M’s lower glacis with L23, DM23 or OFL 120 G1, to mention BR-equivalents to mango.
That goes for gaijin not correctly modeling the armor of nato.
My point was why does the premium tank of us get top tier round while other dont.
Give the canadian Leo2A4M its dm 53
Yes it is when you give something better only for 1 nation
Day 1063 of waiting for Polish tech tree
There’s really no value in circling back over what could be or what should be. At the end of the day, Gaijin makes the final call on how things develop, regardless of how much we discuss it.
Because of that, this debate is destined to go in circles rather than reach any kind of conclusion
As long as they just stick to one of the 2 I’m somewhat fine with it. I mainly have a problem with the idea of Britain getting both the 2A6M CAN and SEPv3.
However if they plan to add an Australian SEPv3 to the British tree, I think it should only come 1 or more updates after they added the SEPv3 to the US tree.
Properly will that how it usually goes Hornets Migs AH-64Es and such
So what we thinking for rank 9, 4++ still? Or 4++ and 5th gen?
Hopefully 4+ and 5th gen. There’s plenty of space for them both.
I wonder if there’s any hope for Data-Link and EW suites for aircraft currently missing them.
Tbh i dont think we will ever see 5th gen in rank 9.
We still got quite a lot missing
Since T-72B3 is going down to 11.3, I think that upcoming event T-72 far more interesting than it was;
As Russia will now have a very solid 11.3 lineup with those.
T-72B3, T-72B3 “Arena”, T-90A, BMPT, and TOR-M1!
I think China 11.0 will still be better in terms of MBTs, as the 11.0 ZTZ-99-II/III are gold, but BMPT is just too nice to ignore.
Now I wish there was a T-80 variant that could fit in there someday!
Not really, using the US as an example there’s:
- Line 1 - F-16C/D PoBIT → F-35A
- Line 2 - F-15C GE → (potentially) F-15C 2040C → F-22a
- Line 3 - F/A-18E/F → F/A-18E/F Block III → F-35C
- Line 4 - AV-8B+ Late → EA-18G → F-35B
- Line 5 - F-15EX
There are also stuff like the F/A-18XT, F-15E1, F-16C Have Glass V kit, and potentially some prototypes like the YF-23 or maybe even the A-12 if Gaijin are feeling bold enough but those would probably end up as premiums/event/squadron vehicles.
The same goes for other nations though there’s enough space for the remaining 4th gen / 4.5/4+ and 5th gens without needing rank 10.
Dont forget the Tunguska, far better suited to the game design!
True! I may just keep using Tunguska instead indeed. I haven’t even unlocked the upgrade mod yet, which I trust will make it even better.
BMP-2M and/or T-80B can stay around too.
It may end up surpassing China 11.0 after all…
The reason why I love those lineups it’s because they feel practically like Top Tier BUT without quite being Top Tier.
Way less C*S powercreep, and also generally feels a bit less “competitive” too. Sometimes I feel like there’s a very strong sense of competitiveness in Top Tier, and I’m a rather casual person, so I am developing a taste for the “not quite Top Tier” BRs hahah. Specially Russia and China, since are some that sacrifice some things in exchange for really neat armor.
They don’t, even less so, as Germany has its own 2A6M (so if Germany needed a 2A6M in some way they can have it under the German flag), as the only difference between the 2A6M and 2A6M CAN is the MGs used. Plus, at the end of the day, the 2A6M is just a heavier 2A6.
Also these, plus these which can easily also apply to the other MBTs for Canada & Australia

I can also see them added tho MBTs as the gap most wanted to be filled (a 12.X) MBT alternative to the Challengers, which can’t be filled by India.
Hello, @Smin1080p_WT ! I’m sorry to bother you, but I was wondering;
Unless it changed, I recall the Forums had a mechanic that blocked users from participating if they hadn’t played “(X) amount of battles in the last (Y) days”.
However, I would like to stay in touch with you guys, even at least here from the hospital! And it appears I’m going to need to stay for a while :’)
So I was wondering if there was a way to bypass/override that mechanic from triggering and isolating me from you? ^^
From what I know it’s still a thing