Can we ban FnF helis from heli PvE just like modern planes are banned from the Air Assault mode?
Or at least use some BR matchmaking in that mode…
How are people supposed to grind helis and heli modules in that mode if some Z-10ME or AH-64E just hovers in the middle of the map and instantly sends a full barrage to every new AI spawn?
From what I’ve heard the KF-21 for Indonesia wouldn’t be 5th gen, at least not in any way that’s currently rumored.
What they might get is a prototype (Block 1 equivalent?) since they were contributors to the project and there is iirc still considerations to transfer the fifth prototype to Indonesia, and possible KF-21 Block 2 (adds ground attack capability) if they actually end up buying them. The first 5th gen KF-21 would be Block 3.
That being said if you want another 5th gen for the list, the domestic 5th gen F-X would count as unfinished prototype, so it’s a nice way to add some more variety to a rank that’ll probably be 80% F-35s (I wonder what similar projects there are for other nations)
Not sure how there could be a KF-21 that wouldn’t be fifth gen
As for the F-X, I don’t think that would currently count as an unfinished prototype, as the project hasn’t really been “cancelled”, plus, there is no way to tell what weapons it would have carried
KF-21 is not a 5th gen, it’s advertised as 4.5th gen fighter. The later Block 3 is meant to implement things like fully internal weapons bays (rather than just recessed) and a lot of other adjustments to reduce radar return and make it a proper 5th gen fighter.
It was cancelled. Instead of going through with developing a 5th gen fighter which had reached significant progress a new development was started towards a 6th generation fighter. While this was initially starting based on 5th gen F-X designs, it wasn’t really a continuation. For example the general airframe that for the 5th gen had reached a rather consistent point based on the latest 26DMU design was again restarted with further DMUs resulting in an entirely new design for this new aircraft.
Now I would argue 6th gen F-X wasn’t cancelled though, since it was directly merged with GCAP, but arguing about 6th gen aircraft seems a bit early now
True but knowing gaijin they could still add these jet’s along the lines of variety and content, at least Indonesia still has a strong connection to the Kf-21 even if they don’t consider using it in irl gaijin might just add it nonetheless. I don’t know about the KAAN though since from my research that a pure Turkish project
KF-21 currently lacks a weapons bay at least the first versions which is probably what Indonesia will get
As for the KF21, I guess with how the fighter generation “system” works them calling their fighter a 4.5th gen makes it a 4.5th gen. (Not trying to be snarky or anything btw)
It feels extremely weird to call a fighter that is planned to enter service in 2026 a 4.5th gen, especially when they apparently advertise the KF21EX as a “5.5+ gen”.
As for the F-X, I actually wasn’t aware that there was a seperate F-X project before the current one. The ones I was aware of are the i3 Fighter and the ATD-X/X-2 and neither one of them resulted in something that could be added to WT.
Now, looking at the F-X suggestion on the forum, I don’t think that that F-X would (currently) be an option in Gaijins eyes. It is highly likely that it might make an appearance later on though, basically when content is running too thin lol
Afaik a plane can lack certain features of the “common” features list and still be considered as part of a generation
This reminds me, didn’t Northrop call the B-21 “the first 6th generation aircraft”, as if that meant anything?
To be honest the difference is mostly marketing and whatever arbitrary line different manufacturers draw between “stealth” and “low visibility”, I’m not even sure how much it will even mean in game
Wait both the Kf-21 and KAAN Indonesia has a significant claim because of there stock shares, I thought it was just the Kf-21
Su-35 and J-10B are also still considered xP
ww1 would be incredible.
J-10B I knew for a while but I thought someone said that was off the table now ?
Stealth from all side i guess.
Its hard to follow as they seem to change their mind every week.
God, when Indonesia will finally have a sub line Japan will be one of the most powerful tech trees for modern air lol
I mean just think of it, F-16s, F-15s, F/A-18s, Gripens, Mig-29s, Su-30s, J-10s, Su-35, Su-27s, Rafales, Su-57’s, KAAN’s, KF-21’s, F-35’s ect all in one tree lmao
Such a missed opportunity with not including WW1 in a proper capacity. Tanks would need some work for them to be playable (maybe with infantry coming expand all the way back to WW1 and have the tanks useable there.) The aircraft could just work in the current air modes but maybe shrink the maps down a bit further and give them an appropriate BR or matchmaker.
