Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion

Physically the Su-27M (Su-35) doesn’t have much to do with the modern Su-35 series… there is often some confusion for that reason. Basically the Su-27M never went past the prototype phase so the Su-35 name was recycled. When it comes to modern versions the Su-35S is the Russian variant, and the Su-35 is the export variant’s name.

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I thought he was just a host for their streams, I don’t think he works at Gaijin or that he has enough contact to the devs to know about this sort of stuff

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5th being added in december 2025 or in the year 2026.

I never claimed that fifth gen would be added in 2025

Wether they are going to be added in 2026 remains to be seen

Brother its in your words

They just confirmed that they wont come as we have so much to add before

Yes, I made the claim that fifth gen would be coming this year, which is last years “next year”

We will have to wait and see, the year has just begun

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Well, that means that he at least has some contact to the devs, probably the same amount that Smin has.

Either way, all we can do is wait and see, as we won’t get anything out of Smin, other than the usual “there is nothing to announce regarding that topic at this point in time” lol

I mean, I wouldn’t be mad about fifth gen not happening this year, if that means we get more older stuff, it would just mean that my prediction would be wrong lmao

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well, at least smin is nice enough to tell us when they decided to add stuff/started working on it after its added

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So the new rank will be for the same old lmao, I don’t believe Oxy on this I expect he’s been told to say this I mean like what about Christmas this year at least ? lol

Even if there is a chance of getting 5th gen.

If we think, we still have quite a large 4th gen and ++ to be added. Also other country’s to be also added.

New feature such as sead and new type of missions still missing.

I dont think we’ll ever see any 5th gen in 2026.

I’ve told you this two months ago, but here I go again

Planes of a generation still missing or features not being introduced yet hasn’t stopped Gaijin from entering a new gen before, why would it now?

Like what ? Sead?? All i can see current gen missing is sead and anti ship. Both are not even ready in game.

We dont even have modern ship to begin with.

Sead missile will kill the game, they need their own environment to work with sams such as patriot or s300.

Yeah I’m thinking this might be the case too. There just isn’t anything that’s really big enough for the Christmas update this year like 5th gens.

My guess would be (just using US as a baseline obviously other nations would also get stuff but I’m too tired to list everything so people just use your imagination for stuff for other nations):

March - SEAD/ARM + F-16C PoBIT / Block 70 + other nation alternatives
June - ECM + dedicated ECM aircraft like the E/A-18G.
September - F-15EX
November - F-22 + Su-57 + J-20
December - F-35’s for all + J-35

Unless Gaijin decides to do some dedicated updates like strat bombers, COIN aircraft, armed trainers, WW1, infantry based aircraft etc then I don’t think there’s enough to pad out this year and possibly most of next year until we get 5th gens.

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Why would you have to “wait and see” is an answer from the Official Warthunder stream not enough? Would Smin saying it not be enough?

Something something “plans change” something something

Mate, I’m against (H)ARMs as well, but they will probably add those anyways

Modern ships might end up never happening, because of how modern day ship to ship combat works (long range missile slinging with literally nothing to do, but wait)

Working on a SEAD mode won’t be a pre-requisite for 5th gen planes

If you are talking about things that should have been added before 4th gen, how about ECM? Counter measure reworks? Game mode adjustments to make them fit modern day combat?

j16 will be heavy J11BG is far better option

J16=light weight SU30

J11BG=light weight SU27

Do you expect anyone from Gaijin making official statements to announce “Yes, 5th gen is coming this year”?