If we’re talking 13.0 in general yeah Su-27 is my favorite because its imo OP lol, R27ET with R27ER is so fun
Do you have docs for your claim?
tbf Iran showed off an I-TOW derivative in 2000
Such a sad state to realize the F14s are basically all gone, i was hoping we’d see more upgraded Tomcats from Iran since i know they planned to put newer engines and radar and RWR in them… oh well
Tomcat is top 10 favorite aircraft
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i dont know why they felt the need to destroy them, its really a shame
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so and where is your data on the Fakour so we can compare the two missiles?
without data on that you cant just claim that the Aim-54C is better than it
This literally doesn’t say anything about the Fakour. Again we know the AIM’s are nerfed but we should also assume Fakour are in the same boat as they are already one of the best Fox 3’s so again all youve done is post an image that we all already knew
there hawk with aim54 fins with a upgraded engine so there faster and pull more with slight redesign for fins supposedly from what ive heard also has less range than the original
og aim54a had 17G pull IRL
AIM54C irl has digitial hard wiring instead of analouge
and had a reduced smoke burner with 25G pull im still digging through documents give me a second
“Although most sources reported that the Fakour-90 is a copy of the AIM-54, some analysts suggested that the Fakour-90 was actually an air-launched version of the MIM-23 Hawk missile with control surfaces from the AIM-54.[14] Analysis of the images identified the rocket motor being “M112” which is used on the Hawk as well as cable raceway similar to the Hawk. The Fakour-90 was also criticized for having less range than the original AIM-54 missiles.[14]”
there a bit more different than i thought internally
IRAN only had access to phase one MIM 23 hawk
its a mix of AIM 54A and mim HAWK 23 its close but not better than AIM 54C
im going mostly off what warthunder has atleast if you have anything for them please do share but as far as i know its a AIM54A+ a upgrade not a full rebuild like aim54C
Again without docs on the fakour 90 specifications this means nothing, it could be a mix of those but then if there are changes we wouldn’t know, again we’d need docs on it so again until i see official stats i have no reason to change my opinion or accept your claim.
Look im fine if the C is better than the Fakour but i need proof via stats
there are no documents as iran doesnt release them
Then we are at a standstill
all we know is its a modified a model and a model is worse than C model by a healthy margin
ive also never seen one of these things even fire
And then we dont know what changes theyve done by 2010 so again without documentation we dont know if its better or worse via personal modifications.
well only reason id assume it took so long as they had to reverse engineer the missile from just a there left over parts
You know linking me the wiki means essentially nothing as its not a credible source
its honestly probably what warthunde went off when they made the Fakour 90