Yeah that was the joke, everyone loses their mind when a Canadian Leopard could be added to the UK.
Yet sure Eastern european tree…pure copy and paste excluding some Ukraine T-80 and BTR variants
I mean, Czechoslovakia alone has 100+ ground vehicles that are either different to in game vehicle variants or completely new altogether. There’s also the Donets spaa, Vab MK3 SICH, Otaman 3, Kevlar E, 7tp, Biala, Rys and AB-13 from Ukraine and Poland (obviously missing plenty of other vehicles from those 2, let alone a few bits and bobs from the Baltic states).
This means that we could exclude any vehicles that wouldn’t have any gameplay differences from the ones in game (namely the Ukrainian challenger 2 and gepard)
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3 nations split between a single tree there will not be room for every unique vehicle.
Its T-34, T-54 and T-72 copy paste
With a smatering of high tier NATO vehicles.
And how many of those unique vehicles do you think they’ll actually add vs just copying whatever’s already in game and slapping a new camo on it?
Belgium has plenty of IFVs we could add and we got none.
They added Hungary and the entire air tree is copied over.
Unfortunately that’s a gajin thing.
I know licensing is a big problem but it’s also that copy and paste is a time and money saver.
That being said, if a tree has potential, I feel like there’s still hope, even if it means waiting.
Here’s a proposal of a Czechoslovakia tree. It can very well stand on its own with minimal copy paste and folders (keep in mind the largest in a tech tree is 4 and in the event tab, it can go up to seven vehicles in a folder). Of course not every vehicle is likely to get in, so some of the vehicles can be replaced by Polish, Ukrainian or Baltic vehicles (maybe Bulgaria aswell if it’s not locked in to Italy)
Isn’t this just contradicting yourself? Saying there won’t be enough room for unique vehicles and then chalking it all down to T-series.
An independent tree would be the best way to get the most unique vehicles and mods in. It’s extremely tiring to keep seeing several tree and subtrees being chalked to “T-80/F-16/Leopard/Gripen” while completely ignoring most of the unique vehicles and mods.
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We can only try but when people start calling tech from subs useless on no real bases, you know I’ll jump on that as it’s not fair to call something useless without a good reason other than I dislike that thing.
Everything should have a home in war thunder but at the same time it should be implemented correctly.
So is China’s similarity to Russia
Unless of course you’d want to play those other nations in particular, want the exclusive lineup options and variants or the many non-exported vehicles of the various nations.
For example a Czech F-35A is not the same as a US F-35C and also can’t be used with most of the vehicles the US top tier lineup would have, or a Ukrainian MiG-29 would have different loadout options from the ones found in the Russian ones.
Though I would agree that the way current subtrees are implemented works actively against this uniqueness, like how all Gripens have identical loadouts rather than unique nation-specific ones.
100% agree, space is far too limited the way subtrees are done right now.
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I think we are at a point where the next sub should be added differently than to what we had before.
It’s time for gaijin to stop seeing Air =air and ground = ground when it comes to subs, as the current take makes the sub on par with their parent nation.
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I don’t really see a need or good reason to add another tree, when there is so much left across all eras and types for the rest of the trees. Adding eastern Europe tree, even if there is some unique stuff, is still going to have a ton of copy paste and very similar vehicle variants. Sure the lineups will be different but what would the point of other trees top tiers be if you can get T-72, Leo 2, Abrams, and K2 in one tree.
If they just fleshed out all existing trees there would be more unique additions than adding a new one
That’s the thing though, people don’t want new nations but at the same time subs are growing up to the point of interfering with the nations we already have, so you have to ask what’s the next stage ?
While some nations could definitely do with subtrees (Israel and Sweden), some vehicles just wouldn’t fit in an existing tree without scattering a nations unique mods and vehicles across multiple trees.
Then the issue comes of fitting them in. How do we decide what vehicle goes in. Keep in mind that there are five lines, each only having three vehicle/folder slots per line.
I’d rather wait for domestic options for the main trees to be added and work be done on newer trees.
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Don’t forget Japan ground, glad I’ve gotten up to 5.0 now lol
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Submarines, carriers, bombers, missile ships, interceptors, prototypes and projects, the 5th generation, peak MBT’s, aircraft, tanks, and ships across the board, gamemode additions and changes
No not the current development stage I mean how are we gonna deal with the sub nation crisis
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Stop adding them
True, the Chi To family of tanks are probably one of the only reasons why I’m still grinding towards tier 5 ground.
Japan genuinely went from my least favourite to favourite ground tree within the span of switching a tier
Can’t stop adding them when some nations clearly need them I.e Japanese ground, Swedish air still and the Israelis
Swedish air already got a subtree, and Japan is just waiting on Thailand ground to be added no?