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The tranche 1 and Rafale F1 (french navy) standard

Limited Air-to-Air armaments but pre integrate helmet mounted display

Rafale F1 ~ F3 fitted PESA radar only

Rafale B to attack aircraft or bomber line ?

I’m not so sure

Rafale M after Mirage 4000, I think

Eh, idk its supposed to be a Finnish air line. It looks more like gaijin didn’t have a proper 9.x fighter for Finland and didn’t want the TT to seem more bare bones and placed it there but ill take your word for it being arranged like it currently is.

Second any progress on the Mark IV or should we expect to go another 6 months without any changes while it remains a fake tank with fictional armor values and without its ABM.

Lastly i have sent you and other mods this bug report for over 7 months and yet it has not been accepted. It is a bug report on the Finnish T-34’s both models. Which have the add on armor weight added to them despite not having the module. Its clearly a bug and should be fixed.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/9n0eoHep9yVB

I mean there is a massive performance gap between MBTs of different nations though. I just wish Gaijin would actually do something about that.

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This is always a weird one for me. The devs think its okay for a certain nation to carry AGMs that go mach 2.2 when no other nation has anything close to it in terms of speed.

but lets just say its a balance decision lmao.

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Soviet/russia lack the early MiG-29 with R-77 between MiG-29 (9-13) and MiG-29SMT (9-19), and MiG-29 from russian navy

And MiG-29 early variant (12.3 ~ -12.7) before MiG-29 (9-13)

At present, USA tech tree none two-seat legacy hornet

Super hornet coming to USA tech tree someday

F-22A Early could come with AIM-9Ms and would have no HMD.

As far as AMRAAMs go, it could get

  • up to 4x 120A/Bs in the weapons bay
  • up to 6x 120Cs in the weapons bay

It’s also worth noting that 120C-1s through 120C-4s offered no range improvements over the 120A/Bs. It’s only at the 120C-5 and later that we get better range. So those could be added if Gaijin thinks the 120C-5 is too much.

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Honestly, I’m starting to find 2000s-2010s planes that are in service in the 2020s still capped to 1990s missiles kinda depressing, hahah.

If we get more advanced jets, I kinda hope it’s with their correct armament already.

On the other hand, I have mixed feelings about that notion. I wonder what Top Tier would look like with better missiles; maybe it won’t be fun at all…

I don’t know. Balancing Top Tier is hard. Specially since Gaijin actively refuses to get rid of the 16v16 DISEASE. The “smaller matches option” is literally worthless. Haven’t got one since a month after its release.

I personally feel like a F-22A Early with 9Ms, 120C-5s, and no HMD would be a cool addition if the MICA gets ungimped and the Eurofighters get 120C-5s. It would trade HMD for stealth. Although idk how bad stealth will be for the game so we’ll have to wait and see.

I don’t really think 9Xs, MICA-IRs, etc. are needed yet so I’d prefer to wait.

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Stealth is either going to do nothing and make US mains mad, or its going to prevent anyone else from firing any BVR missiles at them and will make everyone else mad.

I seriously doubt they’d find a decent middle ground and as a result, I just dont see the point of adding it. Its not like the US are exactly lacking in top tier aircraft currently, let alone other aircraft that could be added like later varaints of the F-16, F-15 and F-18

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I still advocate that planes like the SHAR FA.2 and Hawk 200 series would fit in the top tier stuff, or would have if gaijn didnt just go warp speed on this stuff too much, though tbh its a lot like when gaijin left the 50s into the 60s then 70s, a huge number of what would have been meta/high end fighters got left to the sideline for “speeding to the big names”.

I dont think we need mach 2 for viable top tier, it helps to get into the battle, but it isnt vital.

While “natural” to get more, the excessiveness of their “more” is kind of idk… weird and cruel at times, especially when it means you have vehicles which would have been meta for minor nations at 1 point now being “average” due to the creep, gnat or hawk 80/100 series would have been really good aircraft if added at the right time, now? Well… we needed to speed run to getting to the F22! The UK can make do with its Javelin when everyone else got supersonics! xD

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Wouldn’t a year for the aircraft work for all?

There are probably package names for the upgrade but i dont think they make up versions names

Had to edit because just about everything i can think of 10.3 up for sweden is a made up version of the aircraft with a real version name

Stealth for the 22 would probably be good on EC maps or for sim. But on smaller maps just useless.

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Most upgrades have a name associated with it. But I was thinking something more universal and already used. Gajin has used a year before for tanks. What stops them from using it for aircraft?

I think in some the cases, they simply dont want to give a specific date or variant because it forces them into a specific set up for the aircraft, with little room to change it later.

for example

Tonardo F3 Late I think explicitly has the “late” not “AOP” or “FSP” prefix because it allows them to change the loadout. We could go from the Aim-120B to Aim-120C5 on the aircraft and it wouldnt necessarily be inaccurate to the aircraft because a specific variant wasnt given.

Likewise, one of the excuses given for the Tornado Gr1 being nerfed to have the Mk101 engine is that the Tornado GR1 isnt from a specific date and is an amalgam of the GR1 throughout its service. Its the biggest load of BS ever, given not even the “early” Tornado IDS like the one found on the Italian TT have the Mk101 engine, but if they actually gave a specific date for the Tornado GR1 (such as the fact it has TIALD and therefore is from the mid to late 1990s, about 15 years iirc after it got the Mk103 engine) then they couldnt artificially nerf it

As an SB main, that has me most concerned, though I am also always matched with the US, so would only be a concern if we get the Su-57 as well.

But having spent the last 4 months with a blind radar due to bugs. The idea of it not being a bug is rather terrorfying

i assume your thinking of russian tanks, T64A obr 1971 is a real designation for example and thats the one we have in game

It’s that right there why I want an aircraft date. It would be much easier for me to not waste time on a bug report just to be told. Hey that aircraft is actually this year go do something else.

Yeah… Likewise it can be used to force bug reports through that have been denied for “reasons”

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Which then means they could use something like the upgrade version like blk numbers.