Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

To be expected honestly. That’s one thing that is certain in this uncertain world of ours; R&R will always be the same.

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And there will always be me in it lol, it won’t be an RxR without me

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I just wanna take a look at the major leak from the previous patch, courtesy of @/gszabi99 ❤

Here is the major leak from last patch

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Now I don’t exactly care to look at what we did get since we already have these things in game. What makes me curious is the things we did not get that might be delayed.

Missing Aircraft - F/A-18E and F-2A

The first major addition that didn’t make it last patch was the F/A-18E Super Hornet. The Super Hornet obviously did not make it because it would be redundant with the F/A-18C Late being added. Gaijin may also save the F/A-18E for when they add AIM-120C-5s and/or AIM-9Xs to aircraft. We shall see. I would personally expect it to come next patch or in either of the two Fall patches.

The second major addition that didn’t make it last patch was the F-2A Viper Zero. The only reason I can think of for the F-2A not coming last patch is that it wasn’t ready. By now there is no reason not to add it. Given we got info directly from Gaijin that Japan is getting a jet next patch, we can be reasonably sure the F-2A is coming.

As a side note, I think it would be cool if we got another F-16 vs MiG-29 patch. This could include the F-2A, F-16C PoBIT, F-16V Block 70, and F-16I SUFA for the F-16 side of things, and the MiG-29M, MiG-29K, and/or MiG-35 for the Fulcrum side of things. However, given the F/A-18E is mentioned to have been delayed, I don’t think the F-16C PoBIT will come next patch. Anyways, I digress.

Long Term Leaks

The first long term point that we are given is a strategic bomber mode being tested. Gaijin mentioned another air gamemode in the Community Covert Disclosure that isn’t SEAD. This is likely what is being referred to. This leads into the second point, which says strat bombers are going to be reworked. This would make sense considering a new gamemode would encourage more changes.

The third long term point shows the YAH-56A Cheyenne being an event vehicle. Gaijin stated in the Covert Disclosure that the US would be getting a helicopter next patch, so it’s possible that the Cheyenne is that helicopter. It is also possible that the US will get the RAH-66 Comanche and the YAH-56A will still be an event vehicle, but we will have to wait and see for next patch.

The fourth and fifth long term points discuss multi-vehicle SAM systems being worked on along with HARMs and ARMs being worked on. We now know from the SEAD event that mutli-vehicle SAMs are working, at least for AI vehicles. Gaijin also commented on earlier ARMs being bad in game, meaning HARMs will probably be necessary if Gaijin wants to make ARMs effective (although we should still get all types, even if they’re bad). It’s also worth noting that new top tier SPAA will definitely need mutli-vehicle SAM functionality, meaning we may see ARMs coming in to balance top tier SPAA.

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We need more F-15’s above all else

Wasn’t there a leak stating the F-22 was being worked on?

It’s tough to say because as a Japan main, we’ve been expecting the worst for quite some time lol.

On one hand, given the context of everyone expecting the F-2 soon, Gaijin deliberately mentioning a jet for Japan makes everyone assume F-2. However, Gaijin hasn’t made any hints directly like other aircraft (EFT/Hornet) that this is the case. So either Gaijin didn’t want to be heavy handed or they have something else planned.

Either way, I’m a bit reserved on this till we have corroborating leaks (which the earliest could be this weekend, going by Yukari’s last year’s “schedule”).

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I’m not really looking forward to the J-15, because a small number of CM’s will be very unpleasant.

I don’t see the need. Besides an ASEA F-15 but the F-15E is pretty end of the line before the the F-15EX.

What we really need is more ground additions.

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I don’t understand why you love the F-15 so much. The elephant plane is literally like the F-104, only a little better. He can’t believe in maneuverability at all, only speed. F-16 much better

MAWS F-15’s, SLAM F-15, AN/APG-63v3 strike eagle, F-15EX without EPAWSS (QA), early advanced eagle (F-15SA), Stealth F-15, all have their role and place

Strike eagles arent the most agile but they are much much better platforms than F-16’s. Eagles are fairly maneuverable, and it gets better with the advanced eagles

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Only because of the number of missiles and the speed. And I like playing on the F-16 a lot more.

Oh you are talking about game? Fair enough, whatever you enjoy more ig

While I am end of the line for US I don’t know if I would want to research all those. I am still set with the idea the SEPv2 package should have just been a modification unlocked on the SEP.

Are their great enough differences between those aircraft?

Calling the F-15 quite maneuverable when it only gets heavier with each upgrade, and its rivals are the rafale, su35, and ef-2000 is rather condescending. The same F-15EX will only become much heavier and even less maneuverable, and it will lose speed. But it has a good radar and a lot of missiles. But the gameplay is still super boring and monotonous, throwing missiles and running away, and I’m not sure if he’ll be the leader in terms of speed.

Advanced Eagle series get new FBW so they are actually nicer to fly than older ones. Makes them more manueverable too but I don’t have any hard proof for this, only videos

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Well, okay, I think rockets like the aim9x will greatly improve the situation. Given that they can be thrown from any angle, almost every aircraft in a maneuverable battle will fight not with an enemy aircraft, but with a missile. And being more maneuverable than a rocket is something unreal. Well, in any case, I’d love grind and play on the F-15EX.

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It’s a pity that they and F-16V didn’t get the built-in IRST either, I think this thing on the nose makes any aircraft much more beautiful and complete. Like the icing on the cake. F-16 block 60 looks very good.

There are IRST pods like LEGION that they can use. But yes, integrated IRST generally looks cleaner (I think F-15EX can do the pod well since strike eagles still look good with LANTIRN)

I don’t use IRST, I don’t really need it. I like him only visually and aesthetically. A hanging container is not that.