Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

SL-AMRAAM and Skysabre and the other missile for the Type 81, etc are all ARH missiles, which should eliminate a chunk of that issue and the more modern IR systems like the SLS could also see the introduction of LOAL for missiles.

I should say it’s less of capability and more for balance. FnF long range IR missiles will not be fun for CAS and as much as anyone wants to claim otherwise, CAS will always be a vital part of the game with a right to exist in a fun form.

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Yeah, I do agree, though at the moment, I dont see a solution that allows everyone to get something even half as good as the Pantsir without just taking a big jump forward.

Also, IIR will not be even 1/10th its IRL strength, I fully imagine they will be flareable.

But once we get better SPAA, we can stop nerfing CAS

The turning point would probably be be the propagation of a gun based system with HE-VT & 360 degrees AESA coverage e.g. Sgt Stout so basically everyone has a chance of reliably intercepting incoming ordnance.

AMPV-SHORAD

So the Kills per Flyout of should drop dramatically, which at least goes a significant portion of the way to fixing issues with CAS as long as cover is being provided and somewhat aware.

Or they just add spectral flares and model countermeasures better

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Even if we get full IR signature model overhaul so that IR signatures were actually modeled properly as well as proper IIR countermeasures like BOL being properly modeled. IIR is never going to be undefeatable without those. Its a game, there will always be a degree of defence

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Well yeah that’s the whole point of adding more advanced countermeasures, so IIR is not guaranteed death

Yes, but even then, they’ll help, but they wont be a hard requirement.

and thats just assuming they get modeled.

Im still expecting IIR to be more like IRCCM+. More difficult to defeat than what we’ve got, but not dramatically so

Just look out how Aim-9M and PL-8B is modeled or most of the ARH missiles. Massively restricted to maintain balance

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Yeah probably will be like that

We might not have to wait long. The teased Type 625E has AESA and AHEAD like munitions, should make intercepting munitions very cheap and fast.

However potentially with that, Gaijin may buff missile/bomb damage models again to take more effort to destroy with guns, so that using more expensive (or rather less plentiful) missiles has some advantage.

Two new cards tonight lol

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Whichever AI drew the sekrit dokument guy makes me feel unease

it would be Chatgpt lol

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India doesn’t have pantsir, a MoU was signed last year for co production but no further updates on it.

However UK could recieve SPYDER with python 5 or the TRISHUL anti air

Just sounds like even more reason to actually develop and add the SkySabre, or failing that, the Supacat HVM

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Well, here’s my predictions right now for what could come this update.

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Do you have any news on this breaking picture?
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The only leakers known to be credible are Yukari33, Olivia, and the guys in the WT Snail Mine discord server. I don’t trust any others.

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id like an option to opt out of those awful big arb maps, they dont change anything and just involve boring lengths of flying straight. yes, above 12.0 theyre needed, but below that please stop shoving them down our throats ffs, its especially agravating for 10.3/10.7 planes sucked up into early sarh meta without the ranged weapons to actually participate.

this is kind of a siderant against people who keep pushing arb ec as well.