I was moreso referencing the IR variants being added to aircraft. For example, IRIS-T/ASRAAMs on the Eurofighter, AIM-9Xs on the F-16C, F-15C, F-15E, MICA-IRs on the Rafale, M2K, etc. That’s where we will enter another period of power creep – especially since the IRIS-T, ASRAAM, PL-10, AAM-5, and MICA-IR are quite a bit better than the AIM-9X and R-74M
Having that range on a nigh unflareable IR missile alone makes it quite a step above most things we have now.
The gatling gun is the thing I like the most about it. They’re almost always great fun in ground.
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This shouldn’t go on the Mirage 2000-5F, in my opinion, since it would create a massive gap. Instead, the Mirage 2000-5F Mk 2 should be added and foldered with the base -5F and get MICA-IRs.
Yeah I could see that. Although I am curious if they’ll add the MICA-IR to the Mirage 2000D-RMV and increase its BR. We do have yet to see just how powerful they make next-gen IR missiles, so it couldn’t be outside the realm of possibility.
For example, they could add them with only marginally better IRCCM, not adding Imaging IR (IIR) seekers. They could either leave IRCCM as it is with only gate-width or tracking suspension, or they could add them all with both GW + TS to make them more of an upgrade. I guess we’ll see.
yup, powercreep it will be
What i meant is that MICA-VL SAM can access fox 2 and 3 (MICA EM or IR, same missile, different seeker)
Thing is, the EM variant already exists in game, and i think people are about to realize the shortcomings of the physics engine are bigger than they thought when those kind of missiles (on aircraft and used by SAM sites) are going to appear
I want that to happen when it’s added.
That’s what I’d like.
I have a feeling it might not be as unflareable in game. Unless they made a new aiming mechanic/treat them like spikes that is.
the actually problem is energy, especially for IRIS-T, it’s still a aam without extra booster, though modern rocket will give it a good start energy, but still can’t compete with real SAMs like VT-1 or 95YA6(in energy), and tvc also causes energy loose.
12km range is a self destruct limit, I guess it’s real active range is around 6km
is there any public figures regarding burn time on iris-t ?
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SAAB’s website said it has a speed of Mach3, quite low for air launch. after all, it’s AIM-9 size, so the propellant is very limited
I guess it won’t be a top SPAA.
Still gets outranged hard by CAS though, like it’s not even funny.
Sadly yes, however it removes the need to guide it manually, so you can focus more on repositioning.
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I think it won’t be top, consider that its range could be closer to Chaparral
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That is fair. The new SPAA are just part of what gives me a very bad feeling that this will be another boring update for ground.
I feel like if the swedish spaa that was teased is the benchmark for performance, that the new SPAA will massively dissapoint and that all other new ground vehicles will also just be boring filler.
The Type 81 is 11.7 so anything with IRIS-T will be at least that BR.
closer range for a radar, not so bad
Eh Type 81 is also mostly 8 km max range. So I think range should be equal or slightly better on IRIS-T equipped SPAA.
They siad multiple nations will get new SAM at once. I wonder what nations that will be.
We know Sweden and China, possibly Germany. Nations needing SAM the most are: Israel, Japan(tho it might fit the F&F theme, and be excluded from this), UK, USA. I wonder what they will do.
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I think it’s a little hard for a AIM-9 size missile to get 8+km moving target
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