Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion

I know they are; it’s the reason I won’t use the British Jaguar, seeing it just makes me uncomfortable

Sucks to be you :shrug: laughs in two A2A missiles and Phimat

Eh, I could see it in a limited capacity on something like a Jaguar or Harrier with a nerfed IRCCM, it’s a 50G in optimum conditions missile, it’s gimmick is range more than anything. Akin to R-24T and such more than anything.

yeah, IRCCM on missiles like the AIM-9X, ASRAAM, Python 5, R-74, IRIS-T, MICA IR, and PL-10 will have to be nerfed as having accurate IRCCM on those missiles will be hell, so some of them may be closer than you think, particularly the 90s ones.

Looking at the data mined Python 4 as well as the Stinger, they use suspension plus gate width IRCCM instead of their real life IRCCM, so that is likely a sign of what to expect at least early on

They have also shown that they have no issue nerfing seekers to add missiles early as we saw with the Magic 2

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They allegedly “were unaware” that the Magic II had IRCCM capabilities until they had gathered enough evidence that coincided with the release of the AIM-9M and R-73. It was supposedly not an intentional nerf, so this cannot be said.

fair enough, if that’s their official stance, but what about the Stinger seeker having shit range and worse flare rejection than it should?

And it still doesn’t change the fact that missiles like the AIM-9X, ASRAAM, and IRIS-T are never going to be fit for the game if they don’t receive gimped seekers

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The stinger is what it is because it is still in service and any docs of solid proof are locked behind the classified wall. I’m sure they know that it is wrong but opening up that Pandora’s box of “well we know it we just don’t have sources” is not what you want to do.

I mean that is the territory we’re heading into, they can’t push top tier much further without getting into current use classified material territory, they’re going to have to make it up at some point.

And if that is the case that they can’t accurately model the stinger because it’s classified, wouldn’t that also apply to all those missiles I mentioned, they basically have free reign to make them as good or as bad as they want

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It’s a whole lot of “what if this” and “what if that”. Gaijin will do what Gaijin will do, that’s the end of the story.

I thought it was because they rejected other evidence (inc primary srcs) on the basis of the iglas performance

Like I don’t think any more information would help remedy this

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AAM 2 is a falcon upgrade isnt it?

True, but this is Rumor Round-Up and with the J-11B being leaked there is credible rumor for at least 1 new missile, as the J-11B should only be able to use PL-8 and that doesn’t have IRCCM

So, with the PL-8B being rumor enough, it feels fitting to talk about other IR missiles

Sadly this is not the case, as we explained at the time that the Indian SPAAs added were not instead of something else domestic. We also directly confirmed domestic platforms were on the way.

I would also add that it was British mains themselves that asked for those Indian platforms like the Osa. Had it not been for those requests / feedback, the Osa would not have come then.

Domestic vehicles are being added all the time. However if a vehicle was used by multiple trees, we try to add it to all of them where it can be done. Otherwise, using the M44 as an example, if we only added it to one or two nations, every other nation that operated it would be here now asking why it is they also didn’t get theirs.

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The Osa and Strella have not delayed any domestic options. We have been very clear about that. If both of them were removed tomorrow or not added when they were, something else would not magically have taken their place. Plans for domestic vehicles have not changed and were not changed because of them.

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Oh Holy @Smin1080p_WT of the forum, can you gave us an answer if we can exspect version 2.43.0.41 coming this week? It has some HMD fixes for the EF which are heavely needed

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The team will mostly be returning from holidays soon. So the updates will slowly begin to flow again :)

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Hello @Smin1080p_WT do you know when the next round of BR changes are going to be announced?

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No ETA currently. As everyone will be coming back from holidays.

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yeah, saw that just after I posted, kinda answered my question before I even asked it xD