Brimstone being poor doesnt change that situation. All British mains are using instead is the Harrier GR7 AGM-65
PGM on the GR.4 or the JAS-39 with its AGM-65
We are just moving the problem while allowing other nations to keep pushing
ehh debatable, from what I have heard nothing has changed from the dev server, so the max range is at most 16km and thats going mach near the floor, by the time the missile hits the target in 55-60 seconds you will be well within range, not to mention the UK almost always fights Russia so only one nation having a counter is kinda mute point (and also not an issue when it comes to 20+ km range weapons like the KH38MT and ML and the AGM65s)
On the Devserver The Tornado would be within range as it’s faster than the Brimstone
And was well within SAM range before the missile impacted.
I havent seen any changes to suggest thats no longer the case. (I dont have the GR.4 yet)
You can just launch and turn, no? TGP is capable of maintaining the lock in a bank
you are still well within the range of a pantsir and you still need to be traveling towards the target if you want it to hit, the Tornado is that much faster that turning away causes you to hit the max angel of the pod before the brimstone hits
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now there is IR PGM, isn’t it?
But still out of range of everything else*
Again. I really don’t think we can use Pantsir as the standard to balance CAS around - because it’s such a broken monster compared to what everyone else has.
Something that is fair game against Pantsir will make the game unplayable for everyone else.
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The biggest issue imo, isn’t the brimstone Vs SPAA. If that was all the issue was, it would be “fine” the issue is you are in a tornado Gr4 defending against F-15Es, Gripen Cs and Su-34s firing fox 3s at you whilst guiding a laser guided weapon for the better part of a minute, when everyone else has fired their AGM and potentially RTBed let alone turned cold to better defend.
Definetly gunna need things like the GR4s historically accurate BOL to help it actually survive for that long in that environment
They could also upgrade the SAL-Stone 1s to SAL-Stone 2s to reduce the loiter time by quite a bit
Fully supportive of that. No idea what SAL stones are though so have no input there.
SAL-Only Brimstones. 🤣
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The GR.4 should also get jamming, if that is possible to code in. Being the most immobile airframe at this BR, it should be the basis of further game mechanic testing, jamming is a good start.
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Oh lmao.
Would be a solid candidate
I’m fine with Gr4 getting all its bells and whistles in time.
I’d just really like to see everyone SPAA catch up first. We’re getting new and more powerful CAS every update, yet SPAA capability has been stagnant for like 2-3 years now (obviously excluding Pantsir which is just a ridiculous anomaly)
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IDK how jamming would work in the codes, creating multiple targets around the airframe and focing the missile code to randomly acquiring one of them could be a start. Or make a fake multipath region and enlarge it to like 100m radius.
Chinas new system leaked will act like a Pantsir with an AESA radar and 18km range missiles.
Type 625
Classic snail giving the next, newest best AA to the country who is basically MM tied to the country who already has the best AA.
Absolute bruh moment.
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It 's not an issue of there not being platforms for anti-radiation missiles; between the A-4E 's, Su-25(early), and the SEPECAT Jaguar 's already half of the techtree 's ingame have a researchable aircraft that could get ARM anytime. Plus there 's the JF-17 and it 's unused LD-10 loadout in the files.
I’m not expecting seeker constraints to be an issue either, since the Q&A answers on the topic mentioned " possible simplifications ".
What I’m unsure of is the possibility of ARM coming next update specifically, since it seems likely that the introduction of this new weapon type would be paired w/ new aircraft to use w/ them - which might not happen if the new aircraft planned to appear next update are just the end-of-line 's. Which is why I originally wrote
instead of just the non-bolded part.
though there are few choices of pantsir equal.
pantsir is a very special SPAA, it’s ballistics is close to VT-1, with less drag, and much worse mobility, so far it’s normal.
but it has 18km self destruction range, and a not warning radar. so things changed, you don’t know when will it come
the datamine shows a 10km early version
so possibly not 625e but the FB-10.
625E with 17km FB-10A is like 81C to 2S6, could be too op
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Thats just an admission Gaijin know they messed up the game with the Pantsir.
They had the opportunity to add an analogue to one are chosing not to…
Thats not so say things cant change