Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

Inb4 they get they get latin america as their sub tree

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Lmfaooo, I experience the same.

Whenever I see an American Standard, I’m like; “oh, free score points for the event!”

1-2 salvos into the barbettes, and they are gone. It’s ridiculous.

Only ONCE have I found one that refused to die, it was strange. A Tennessee, two days ago. An American BB NOT dying on the first salvo fired at it was such a rare occurrence that I remember it like a special occasion, I even took screenshots as proof lmfao.

Firstly, this is not to say the IJN were not powerful they most certainly were, and according to UK estimates to fight both the Germans, Italians and Japanese they needed 4 years of aggressive ship building (keeping in mind the KGV’s took 3 to build 5). However:

The Royal Navy was only overtaken in late 1943-1944 by the US Navy, on an individual basis it was the most powerful navy until it was overtaken and this was mainly not an issue of capacity but an issue of funding and being bombed.

Often when people compare the RN and IJN its always the actions against PoW and Repulse, which were arrogant actions to have ordered and flawed but the RN also was not expecting to be engaged.

On an individual basis the RN had more ships, generally more powerful capital ship (baring of course the Yamato’s but those only entered service in 1939-40, additionally the UK had just as strong a capability of dealing with them as the US), they had more carriers though smaller.

The UK also had the advantage of radar FCS and all the tactics Japan used for nightfighting, were primarily learned from the UK. The UK also had a range advantage against many of the Japanese ships that weren’t Nagato and Yamato class ships.

The UK’s Fleet Air Arm was also the only navy at the time capable of conducting efficient night operations from carriers.

The primary advantage Japan had over the UK, was that it’s allies stretched the UK across several bases. Until WW2 hell probably even until Suez the UK was perfectly capable of being either the first or second largest naval power.

Also that the Australia (and Canada but not pacific) was included as part of the UK’s naval ‘budget’ despite being wholly independent and perfectly capable of financing a fleet that could stand up to the Japanese a lot better than the 2 ships the UK could send. Though we know they would have probably just bought British ships.

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They don’t stress me out unless i’m in Hood in which case I can’t usually get shots in accurately enough to detonate the barbette. But ironically in a much worse and older BC I don’t worry about them too much.

I often fire individual turrets against US standards so I have a higher chance of detonating them.

Despite the fact that I do not think US ships are particularly good, I would like to see them be competitive. On one hand, removing the shell room detonation would make them unkillable and would be ahistorical, on the other hand, it must be infuriating to get killed by a ship who is also famous for detonating.

So many of the sub-tree problems would be solved if they were treated as a full nation and given its own tab(s) for air, ground and naval.

As pointed out the only time we’d see unique stuff as TT is if it’s a new full nation(and only 1-2 nations). So have sub-trees act like full new nations we wouldn’t see all its unique stuff end up premium and event like we have lately.

There are a few other things that need to end like the “German priority” with placements. and as said keeping event stuff locked to an old nation.

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But F/A-18C MLU 2 (FI) never ordered AGM-88 HARM anti-radiation missile

Why did you need to message me about harm? I never mentioned it, also thats up to gaijin to add or not. I doubt the F18 will be useful CAS wise like the gimped gripens are since sweden usually gets shafted with CAS being implemented properly. Doesn’t matter im happy the gripens are decent for CAS but the people that think the F16C is worse are actual brainlets.

Regardless neither of us had any mention of Harm so why mention it? We literally weren’t even talking about the f18

Oh Sorry 😔

For F/A-18C MLU 2 (FI), close air support better Gripen C from swedish, SAAF and HuAF in game

JAS39C Gripen late (MS20 standard) for swedish equipped Litening III or Litening 5 targeting pod. armed GBU-49 Enhanced Paveway II and GBU-39 SDB

Yeah, you know they are still missing their 5th pylon right? Regardless the f18 would have to bring something really strong to be better than the gripen. Also gaijin can and will probably add armaments to vehicles even if the nation didn’t use it because of balance, they just need to be able to hold and use said equipment for it to be added. That is why the SAAF gripen was the first gripen to be added with ground equipment it neverbused but since people hate sweden more they tend to say AGM 65G was added to them furst despite them getting it 3 weeks after the SAAF gripen did.

Regardless these armaments should be something gaijin thinks about going forward since balance should still be a priority

Sadly, South African JAS39 Gripen C never upgraded to MS20 standard

Especially F/A-18C (late production) from USN full guided Air-to-Ground munitions and great close air support

RTAF operator JAS39 Gripen C armed AGM-65G like F-16AM eMLU ?

It doesn’t matter? The gripen A we have now isnt even real and is artificially held back since the current C’s in game are just A models. Gaijin does this with the gripens and viggens because they have no idea how to actually add these vehicles properly. Gaijin can literally decide to make the C the MS20 upgrade regardless if said nation actually used them. I see no reason the SAAF gripen wouldn’t be given special treatment if the MS20 upgrade actually buffs it. Besides the MS20 model wont be a vehicle we see as it wouldn’t have any equipment aside from missiles to warrant it being added. At that point the Grioen NG would be more likely to be added in between the C and E considering gaijin has no idea when or how to add the gripens.

Also again? Did you actually read what i put down? Why bring up the RTAF? the gripen is rated for the AGM 65. My point was that people didn’t care that the SAAF gripen got agm 65G, people only bitched when 3 weeks later it was added to the swedish version because hur dur sweden. Despite the SAAF gripen literally having agms it never used from the very start.

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Again i do not know to what extent the fins restored CAS capability so its not logical to think gaijin will make the finnish f18 on par CAS wise to the US model. I assume the three people who actually bug report and suggest stuff for sweden/finland will have to ask for it to get equipment from the US f18

No he was heavily nodding stuff 2 latches ago. He knew stuff not in the mines. Even admitted he “couldn’t say stuff”.

I beg your pardon !

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Latches. You know. When they open a latch to grab a new patch. Duh.
Not a type-o at all.

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We do have a pretty good idea as to a few vehicles that are coming probably in the next patch or in another patch. We have quite a few vehicles which haven’t been added that have been on the prior leak list.

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i’m anxious for the next update in october I’m counting the days on the calendar (hoping for a new sub for japan)

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This was more than that. Gszabi was fed stuff not in the mines.

Gripen C for RTAF armed AGM-65G, My guess only

But nobody wonder F-16AM eMLU mounted AGM-65G

F/A-18C MLU 2 (FI) like USN/USMC F/A-18C late and F/A-18A+ in 2000’s except anti-radiation missile

Ordered AIM-120C-8 AMRAAM, Meteor & GBU-39 SDB like JAS39 Gripen E but fitted PS-05/A Mk.4 radar and equipped Litening III or Litening 5 targeting pod

Yeah, i assume its something a lot of people want or something that just wasnt ready yet.