Just means India is going to have to provide its value for air, so MKI is almost necessary without a top tier MBT.
I would like to see the NAMICA at some point though
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listen bro I’m not in the mood to debate with someone who keeps shifting the goalpost.
The original point was that the comparison of the MICA to the AIM-120 was ridiculous because they’re missiles that excel at two different things.
I added on to that that in spite of the MICA existing since Seek and Destroy, the meta jets at top tier have (and still are) the fastest jets with AIM-120s due to BVR performance.
You then came out of left field with this out of nowhere comparison of “well what if the MICA had the same range as the AIM-120” (which is a stupid hypothetical because it doesn’t, but I entertained it)
The Typhoon still has the speed advantage which matters a lot in regards to BVR. (it’s the reason the F-15E and Typhoon are considered the best jets for their respective times)
Then you run to the next excuse of “well it’s just skill issue”
Wont be BOL thoigh so large cms are much better
I assume they’ll be medium not large
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After only 24 J-10B were manufactured, they were all upgraded to J-10C for production
My point is;
AIM-120 excels at theorically reaching ranges that add no true combat value because everyone just defends easily from said ranges.
MICA excels at anihilating anything from existence within the ranges most of the gameplay actually takes place at.
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do you have the two planes in question out of curiosity?
Is it planned to rework and refine the accuracy of target tracking radars? At the moment, they are several times less accurate than in reality. There are problems with tracking targets at a distance of more than 10 km, although almost all radars in the game can confidently track targets at least 15-18 km and further (depending on the model), all targets are targets without stealth systems. The same applies to optical IR target tracking machines, they capture targets much closer than they should in bad weather.
Sounds to me like you wont accept the Rafale is the most played and the has the highest WR of any of the new jets.
Someone showed you a video of a MICA pulling a 180 and your response was yeah but AMRAAMs have longer range.
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When launched in same conditions, MICA EM is slightly faster or equal to AIM-120A/B in-game.
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I do not- but I DO face both. And all I know is that I can evade AIM-120s launched from 3912 km away because it’s relatively easy to just notch and chaff the RWR signal you get for 20 seconds before the missile is even close to me, but, on the other hand, I can hardly do anything against MICAs launched at actual gameplay ranges, particularly from comically extreme angles of attack in dogfights.
Most of the few times I die to long range launches is because I’m alt-tabbed. However, the moment a MICA is launched from actual gameplay ranges, there’s little to nothing that can be done about it.
I wish I had the Rafale and its multiversal travelling MICAs, but the grind is too time-consuming and expensive, so I feel like I can’t really grind any more trees at the present time.
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No someone showed me a video of a MICA pulling a 180 and I responded by pointing out the strengths and weaknesses of both missiles.
While also pointing historically at what the “best” jets in ARB have been.
The point is that amram is good at long range, mica good as short, and yeah using an amram to force someone to go defensive is still useful even if it doesn’t hit.
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Strength of AIM-120: reaching theorical but impractical ranges.
Weakness of AIM-120: being mid at actual gameplay ranges.
Strength of MICA: excelling at actual gameplay ranges.
Weakness of MICA: not reaching impractical ranges.
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You can use a MICA to force someone defensive, it doesn’t actually tell you what missile is locked on you so that effect is the same regardless of if it can hit or not
It is and in Air RB that is great for forcing players off their attacks. But being real speculative shots with equal pilots those 120s are never hitting.
Then within the 15-10km the 120 PK drops whereas MICAs increases.
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Also it should be noted that while MICA is underperforming, so is AMRAAM: Community Bug Reporting System
So if they fix one they should also fix the other.
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I can get the difficulty of balancing Fox-3s.
They were definitely a Pandora’s box.
Imagine when we begin getting more capable ones, or even the current ones fixed.
There will be a point where every point-and-click will be a guaranteed kill, pretty much. Some people argue it’s already the case… imagine later down the line.
That’s why I don’t want to have a strong position about it either. On the one hand, I would find it reasonable for us to move on into better missiles, but I wonder- would that really be good for the game’s health and enjoyment?
So I think I will just step aside and trust that Gaijin and those who know best about Air-related matters will achieve the best balance.
I was going to type a long detailed response to this. But it’s evident there’s a gross misunderstanding not just of the munitions in question, but the mode itself, how it’s played, what constitutes a meta/non-meta weapon, and the platforms that these weapons are based on overall.
the MICA-EM is good, the AIM-120A/B is good. They’re both good at very different things, and ultimately the platform they’re mounted on is what decides which is meta currently and why.
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With the multi-vehicle sams beginning Testing I wonder if they would appear in this years April fools event.