Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

No smokeless motor

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Well… Swiss Hornet is still an option
(No, I won’t accept “trialed” F-15 and F/A-18. Swiss Hornet is more viable option)

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Seems like effort for something that wouldn’t have any BR significance. Maybe they’ll do it anyway, who knows.

Still. I’m concerned that ARH carriers will be stuffed up in BR despite terrible flight performance. I can’t imagine wanting to ever dogfight an F-15C with MiG-29SMT/F-4F ICE/J-8F.

isn’t Argentina getting F-16’s from denmark? tho idk if they carried AMRAAM

The question is what impact ARH will have on the current meta. Currently aircraft that excel are those that can merge and then win the subsequent dogfight. This is why things like the Gripen and F-16 are currently the better jets.

Meanwhile BVR trucks like the Tornado F3 are left kinda struggling despite in theory being one of the better BVR trucks in the game.

So if ARH turns the meta to be more BVR focused. Then radar, weapon count and climb rate could become more notable attributes. At which point aircraft like the F4F-ICE and Sea Harrier FA2 will sit higher. At least initially.

TLDR, Will they make ARH useless by just hugging the ground like they did with SARH. If so. F4F-Ice, Sea harrier, etc they’ll all need to be notably lower than the IR fighters and things like the Gripen will probably just stick with IR missiles most of the time

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Honestly after reading in devblog their recommendations how to counter ARH im hoping that they will lower the multipathing to 5-10 meters max.

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I don’t believe that, because currently AIM-54 and R-27ER still get decent kills from range. There are enough people to pick off even with these considerably disadvantaged weapons. ARH are just way way more capable, even if we treated them as mere SARH, they have to go up a lot, plus a few of the ARH carriers just have crazy flight performance even if they didn’t have better kit.

Yep. I hope so. Or make it so that DL mitigates multipathing altogether. So whilst you still have lock on the target, Multipathing doesnt work, but if the missile goes active and you turn away, loosing your own radar lock. Then multipathing has an affect.

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Little did Deathmisser know that Japan almost got Su-27 as well…

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Aim-54 kills are just on people who have no idea what they are doing. Hug the ground and you’d never get killed by them. R-27ER is really good in close range jousts with the DL+IOG and high speed. But I doubt you’d ever want to use one at alt and try to win a BVR battle

They can really splash people and RWR just ignores them oftentimes. You’re just not generally safe from them unless scraping treetops.

Seen it happen often enough. So I expect ARH to make BVR a bit more meta or just be a type of 10km IR missile of sorts.

Yeah… But either way, till we get onto the dev server or even live. Its impossible to know. They could just be as unreliable as SARH

yes

Ok they can
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Hopefully not ever.
The game can barely even handle battleships.

Most likely yes, we’ve had ARH AShM 's and submarine-specific parts in the files for longer than we’ve had battleships. They’re definitely planned to come.

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war thunder mobile is a good test platform. can’t wait for them to come in normal war thunder, battleships are boring shit to me.

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Oh lord dont encourage him.

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I’m going to be honest and say that some of his posts are “very hot takes”

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Sure, and since Rafales can land on U.S. carriers I can’t wait to see those coming to the U.S tree.
:)